Converting Energy to Mass: Understanding the Relationship Between MeV and kg

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of energy measured in MeV to mass in kilograms, specifically examining the relationship defined by Einstein's equation E=mc². Participants are trying to understand the correct application of unit conversions and the implications of using different units in calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the conversion of MeV to Joules and subsequently to kilograms, questioning the handling of units and the application of constants like c. There is confusion regarding the correct method to apply the conversion factors and the implications of using the value of c in calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into unit conversions and identifying errors in previous calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper treatment of units, but there is still uncertainty about the correct approach to achieve the desired conversion.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is also a noted discrepancy between calculated and expected results that remains to be resolved.

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Homework Statement
Convert 1672 MeV/c^2 to kg
Relevant Equations
E=mc^2
(1672 MeV/c^2) * c^2 = 1.505 * 10^20 MeV = 1.505 * 10^26 eV = 2.41 * 10^7 J

Since E = mc^2, m = E/c^2

Therefore, m = 2.41 * 10^7 / (3 * 10^8)^2 = 2.68 * 10^-10 kg

But the answer is 2.97 * 10^-27 kg

Help! What is wrong with my logic?
 
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##1~\text{eV} = 1.609 \times 10^{-19}~\text{J}##
eV is a unit of energy so eV/c2 is a unit of mass. Thus 1 J/c2 is kilograms. Conversely, if you multiply kilograms by c2 in (m/s)2, you get Joules.
Take it from there.
 
Indeed, but if I directly convert 1672 MeV/c^2 using the fundamental charge:

(1672 * 10^6 eV/c^2) * 1.609 J/eV, I get 2.68 * 10^-10 J/c^2. This is kilograms.

Same wrong answer. I'm missing something here. I have to divide again by c^2 and I have no idea why.
 
Saibot said:
(1672 MeV/c^2) * c^2 = 1.505 * 10^20 MeV
No. You haven't handled the conversion/units correctly. The 'c²'s (on the 'top' and the 'bottom') cancel, so the energy (in MeV) is 1672MeV.
 
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OK, so it was incorrect to replace the "unit" c with the actual "value" of c (3*10^8). Got it, thanks mate.
 
Saibot said:
(1672 * 10^6 eV/c^2) * 1.609 J/eV, I get 2.68 * 10^-10 J/c^2. This is kilograms.
Mind your units.

If ##~1~\text{eV} = 1.609 \times 10^{-19}~\text{J}##, ##~1~\text{J} = \frac{1}{1.609 \times 10^{-19}}~\text{eV}\implies 1~ \rm{J/eV}=6.21\times 10^{18}.##
 
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Saibot said:
Therefore, m = 2.41 * 10^7 / (3 * 10^8)^2 = 2.68 * 10^-10 kg

But the answer is 2.97 * 10^-27 kg
You are off by a factor of ##\approx 9 \times 10^{16}##. This should give you a clue as to what you are doing wrong.
 
Saibot said:
OK, so it was incorrect to replace the "unit" c with the actual "value" of c (3*10^8). Got it, thanks mate.
It's ok to replace the "unit" c with its actual value. But you didn't do it everwhere. So you should have done this:

##1672 MeV/c^2 \times c^2##

##= 1672 \times \frac {MeV}{(3 \times 10^8 m/s)^2} \times (3 \times 10^8 m/s)^2##

##= 1672MeV##

Of course, all that work is unnecesary once you understand that a mass of ##X~ MeV/c^2## is equivalent (using ##E=mc^2##) to an energy of ##X ~MeV##.
 
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Understood. Thanks so much :)
 
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