Cooling load calculations for hotel rooms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the considerations involved in performing cooling load calculations for hotel rooms, specifically regarding whether to include the toilet area in the calculations and how to account for air movement and temperature differences between the room and the toilet.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the toilet area should be considered part of the area being cooled, as cooled air will flow from the room into the toilet.
  • Others argue that air lost through the bathroom fan must be accounted for in the cooling load calculations, as it affects the overall air conditioning needs.
  • A participant mentions that if the toilet is included in the cooled area, the partition wall separating the toilet and the room should not be considered, assuming both areas are at the same temperature.
  • Another participant suggests that the partition wall may need to be considered if the bathroom is a unique source of heat or cold, indicating that specific conditions could alter the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the toilet area should be included in the cooling load calculations and how to handle the partition wall between the toilet and the room. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about temperature uniformity between the room and the toilet, as well as the impact of bathroom fans on air conditioning needs that are not fully clarified.

tj00889
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When performing cooling load calculations of an hotel room, do I consider the toilet as part of the area being cooled as it is at negative pressure with respect to the room and cooled air will flow from the room into the toilet. Or should I perform and the load of the room separately and add losses from the room through the partition wall.
 
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The toilet area is part of the area being cooled, so you need to consider it. You will need to account for the air lost in the restroom. Any air the bathroom fan pulls out, comes in from somewhere, and it has to be conditioned/accounted for.

tj00889 said:
Or should I perform and the load of the room separately and add losses from the room through the partition wall.

I'm not sure what you are asking here. To get a good load calculation, you will have to account for all the gains/losses for the whole room.
 
ChemAir said:
The toilet area is part of the area being cooled, so you need to consider it. You will need to account for the air lost in the restroom. Any air the bathroom fan pulls out, comes in from somewhere, and it has to be conditioned/accounted for.
I'm not sure what you are asking here. To get a good load calculation, you will have to account for all the gains/losses for the whole room.
i meant losses to the toilet through the partition wall, If I am considering the cooled area to include the toilet , I would not consider the partition wall separating the toilet and the room because I am assuming the toilet and room are at the same temperature.
 
tj00889 said:
I would not consider the partition wall separating the toilet and the room because I am assuming the toilet and room are at the same temperature

Ordinarily, I wouldn't either, unless the bathroom is a separate, unique source of heat/cold, or something unusual. In this case, the bathroom fan air needs to be accounted for, and the volume in the bathroom should be included.

The toilet and room are in the same envelope.
 

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