Proving the Linear Independence of Coordinate Curves on a Smooth Surface

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The discussion centers on proving the linear independence of the tangent vectors ∂r/∂u and ∂r/∂v for coordinate curves on a smooth surface defined by the vector r(u,v). It is established that if the surface is smooth, then these vectors must be linearly independent, as their linear combination cannot equal zero for non-trivial values of du/dλ and dv/dλ. The reasoning provided suggests that because the surface is smooth, the tangent vector d r/dλ must be non-zero, indicating that the curves cannot be parallel. Additionally, it is noted that the parameters du/dλ and dv/dλ can be manipulated to maintain this independence. Overall, the proof is acknowledged as valid, albeit somewhat unclear in its presentation.
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I'm stuck on a problem on vector calculus.

Given a surface S defined as the end point of the vector:

<br /> \mathbf{r}(u,v) = u\mathbf{i} + v\mathbf{j} + f(u,v)\mathbf{k}<br />

and any curve on the surface represented by

<br /> \mathbf{r}(\lambda) = \mathbf{r}(u(\lambda),v(\lambda))<br />

and it mentions the tangent to the curve \mathbf{r}(\lambda) is given by

<br /> \frac{d\mathbf{r}}{d\lambda} = \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial u} \frac{du}{d\lambda} + \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial v} \frac{dv}{d\lambda}<br />

It then goes on to focus on a specific case dealing with the curves u = constant and v = constant. It says:

The curves u = constant and v = constant passing through any point P on the surface S are said to be called coordinate curves.

I follow the above however it then states...(for u and v being coordinate curves)

If the surface is smooth, then the vectors \partial \mathbf{r} / \partial u and \partial \mathbf{r} / \partial v are linearly independant.

It gives no explanation as to why the two vectors are linearly independant... any ideas as to how to prove this?

The only thing i could come up with was that since the surface is smooth then any curves on it must be also be smooth and thus differentiable at all points and therefore d\mathbf{r}/ d\lambda must be a non zero vector since the curve \mathbf{r}(\lambda) must have a defined tangent.

The equation:

<br /> \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial u} \frac{du}{d\lambda} + \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial v} \frac{dv}{d\lambda}= \mathbf{0}<br />

cannot be true for any non trivial combination of the vectors \partial \mathbf{r} / \partial u and \partial \mathbf{r} / \partial v therefore they are linearly independant.

Seems a bit of a fuzzy proof though...
 
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Proof seems legit, if awkwardly phrased.
 
Hi Ceres629! :smile:

Since you're given:
Ceres629 said:
and it mentions the tangent to the curve \mathbf{r}(\lambda) is given by

\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{d\lambda} = \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial u} \frac{du}{d\lambda} + \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial v} \frac{dv}{d\lambda}

I'd be more inclined to say that if the surface is smooth, then du/dλ and dv/dλ can take any values, and in partiuclar can therefore always be chosen to have (du/dλ)/(dv/dλ) = -|∂r/∂v|/|∂r/∂u|, so satisfying \frac{d\mathbf{r}}{d\lambda} = \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial u} \frac{du}{d\lambda} + \frac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial v} \frac{dv}{d\lambda}\,=\,0 if ∂r/∂u and ∂r/∂v are parallel;
and λ can be chosen to be arc-length, so that dr/dλ ≠ 0. :smile:
 
thanks tiny tim, your answer also makes sense.
 

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