Core 3 Level Help - Solve ln (2y - 1) = 1 + ln (3 - y)

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation ln(2y - 1) = 1 + ln(3 - y), which falls under the subject area of logarithmic equations. Participants are exploring various approaches to manipulate the equation and clarify their reasoning.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss exponentiating the equation and using logarithmic identities. Some express confusion over the steps taken, while others suggest using the identity ln(x/y) = ln(x) - ln(y) to simplify the problem.

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There is an ongoing exchange of hints and attempts to clarify the correct approach. Some participants have provided guidance on using logarithmic identities, while others are questioning the validity of previous attempts without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are grappling with the application of logarithmic properties and the implications of their manipulations. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the logarithmic functions involved.

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Hi.

Could someone please help me with the following question? I would really appreciate any help as I am totally stuck at the moment.

ln (2y - 1) = 1 + ln (3 - y)

Is the answer:

y = (e + 4) / 3 ?

Thank you.

Cathy
 
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Nooo. How did you get that?
 
Nooo. How did you get that?

Looks like she tried to exponentiate it...which is the incorrect way to solve this problem.
 
Hint: Use identities...Ln(x/y) = Ln(x) - Ln(y)
 
Dick said:
Nooo. How did you get that?

I went to 2y = 1 = e^1 + (3 - y)

3y = e^1 + 4

y = e^1 + 4 / 3

Could someone please tell me where I went wrong?

Thank you.

Cathy
 
Try using the identity that I just posted.
 
e^(1+ln(3-y))=e^1*e^(ln(3-y))=e*(3-y). If you exponentiate a sum, it becomes a product.
 
stewartcs said:
Hint: Use identities...Ln(x/y) = Ln(x) - Ln(y)

Thanks for your help.

I now have y = (3e + 1) / (e + 2)

Cathy
 
Dick said:
e^(1+ln(3-y))=e^1*e^(ln(3-y))=e*(3-y). If you exponentiate a sum, it becomes a product.

Thank you for your help! :smile:

Cathy
 
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ln (2y - 1) = 1 + ln (3 - y)

Which gives...

Ln(2y - 1) - Ln(3 - y) = 1

Then using the identity: Ln(x/y) = Ln(x) - Ln(y), gives...

Ln[(2y - 1)/(3 - y)] = 1

Can you take it from here?
 
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You're welcome.
 
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Hi.

Could someone please help me with this one too?

Express [(x - 10) / (x - 3)(x + 4)] - [(x - 8) / (x - 3)(2x - 1)] as a single fraction in its simplest form.

I got up to (3x^3 - 20 x^2 + 93x - 126) / (x - 3)(x + 4)(x - 3)(2x - 1) but do not know whether this is correct or what to do next.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thank you.

Cathy
 
  • #13
That is correct, but it's unnecessarily complicated. The least common denominator is (x-3)*(x+4)*(2x-1). You don't need the second factor of (x-3).
 

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