Cosmic Inflation & Fine Structure Constant: Theory & Observations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between cosmic inflation and the fine structure constant, specifically whether inflation could lead to changes in the fine structure constant over time. It encompasses theoretical considerations, observational claims, and implications for modern physics.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether there is any theoretical or observational basis to suggest that inflation could change the fine structure constant.
  • One participant cites observational papers by J.K. Webb claiming variations in the fine structure constant over cosmological time, while another participant strongly disputes these claims, suggesting they lack credibility.
  • There is a consensus among some participants that there is no credible evidence supporting the idea that the fine structure constant has varied over time, with one participant emphasizing the implications of Lorentz invariance being violated under variable alpha models.
  • Another participant clarifies that the discussion should focus on whether the fine structure constant varied during the inflationary period, rather than over cosmological time.
  • One participant notes the lack of a consistent theory of inflation and suggests that if inflation were to affect particle masses, it could have significant implications for measurements of time and distance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the credibility of claims that the fine structure constant has varied over time, with some asserting that there is no evidence for such variations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the potential effects of inflation on the fine structure constant.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current theories of inflation and the absence of laboratory tests to validate these theories. There is also uncertainty regarding the implications of inflation on fundamental physical constants.

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I saw this question (in a far removed forum), and I thought it was interesting. Do we have any theoretical reason (or observations) that would suggest that inflation change the fine structure constant.
 
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Webb has published observational papers claiming that it's changed over cosmological time. He's full of ****. See, e.g., Rosenband et al., 2008, 319 (5871): 1808-1812, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/319/5871/1808.abstract

J.K. Webb et al., 2000, "Further Evidence for Cosmological Evolution of the Fine Structure Constant," http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0012539v3

J.K. Webb et al., 2010, "Evidence for spatial variation of the fine structure constant," http://arxiv.org/abs/1008.3907 ; Phys. Rev. Lett. 107, 191101 (2011)
 
I agree with Ben, there is no credible evidence 'alpha' has varied over time. There is, however, an abundance of evidence it has not. Lorentz invariance is violated under any variable alpha approach, which would have profound consequences for most of modern physics.
 
there is no credible evidence 'alpha' has varied over time.
I understood pervect's question to be, not has alpha varied over cosmological time, but during the period of inflation.
 
As we have no consistent theory of Inflation, and certainly have not tested it in a laboratory setting, we have no idea whether the Fine Structure Constant would be affected by it.

Furthemore if Inflation (using a Higgs field??) affected particle masses then that would also profoundly affect physics in that epoch and the measurement of time and distance as there would be no longer fixed rulers and regular clocks.

But again we have no idea...

Garth
 
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