Cosmic rest frame, proper distances and comoving distances

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This discussion focuses on the concepts of cosmic rest frame, proper distances, and comoving distances within the context of general relativity and cosmology. The standard cosmological coordinates are based on the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric, which defines proper distance as the measurement on a hypersurface of constant cosmological time. It is emphasized that proper distance is coordinate dependent, contrasting with the definition in special relativity. Key resources mentioned include Ned Wright's cosmology FAQ and several academic papers that further explore these concepts.

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  • Understanding of general relativity principles
  • Familiarity with the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric
  • Knowledge of cosmological time measurement
  • Basic concepts of isotropy and the cosmic microwave background radiation
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  • Read Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial for foundational knowledge
  • Explore the paper "Expanding confusion" to understand distance measures in cosmology
  • Investigate the implications of coordinate dependence in cosmological measurements
  • Study the paper "Expanding space, the root of all evil?" for advanced insights into cosmological concepts
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I am trying to understand more about these terms. I am currently studying a course about relativity and cosmology, but I am finding the textbook (Open University) difficult to follow. Can anyone help me untangle and make some simple sense of these different terms? Thanks
 
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I can suggest a couple of FAQ's and papers related to these issue, and give my own take.

My own take first: all notions of distance in general relativity and cosmology are dependent on one's choice of coordinates. The main reason is that to define distance, one must slice space time into space+time.

The standard choice of cosmological coordinates is a cosmological time based on the FRW metric. Physically, one can regard that objects which are moving with the Hubble flow have constant cosmological spatial coordinates. Objects "moving with the Hubble flow" will see the cosmic microwave background radiation as being the same in all direction, i.e. isotropic. Clocks on these observers (the one's comoving with the Hubble flow) measure cosmological time.

Proper distance in cosmology is the distance measured on a hypersurface of constant cosmological time, i.e one can imagine a chain of observers who all measure their distance to the next observer in the chain at some certain instant of cosmological time, and the sum of these distances is the proper distance.. See in particular Ned Wright's cosmology FAQ on this point, and for a few other distance measures that are easier to measure in practice.

Note that this makes the definition of proper distance coordinate dependent, unlike the definition in special relativity. Thus the concept of "proper distance" in special relativity is different from the concept used in cosmology.

Some of the promised papers: Note these links are links to the abstracts, you can view the full text of the paper in several formats (I'd suggest pdf)

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_01.htm Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310808 "Expanding confusion" especially appendix A
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.0380 "Expanding space, the root of all evil?"
 

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