Cosmology Question: Expansion of the Universe

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The discussion revolves around the expansion of the universe in the context of cosmology, specifically examining whether smaller objects like solar systems, stars, or galaxies expand along with the universe. The original poster presents a problem involving the calculation of how long it would take for a human to expand by 1mm based on the Hubble parameter, while also questioning the implications of this expansion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the Hubble parameter and its relation to the expansion of objects over time. There are attempts to set up algebraic expressions to relate distances and time, as well as considerations of whether the Hubble parameter remains constant over large time intervals.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the mathematical relationships involved, while others express uncertainty about their understanding of the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts without a clear consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that local gravitational forces prevent smaller objects from expanding with the universe, which frames the problem as a hypothetical scenario. The original poster expresses difficulty in finding a starting point for the calculations.

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So the other day in my cosmology class we talked about whether smaller objects like a solar system, a star or a galaxy expand with the rest of the universe. While the answer is obviously no, since local gravitational forces can overcome that expansion, our professor thought it would be kinda amusing the calculate the effect of that expansion on an object like a human being if we were to expand along with the universe.

So we're asked to find out how long it would it take us to expand by 1mm, given the current value of the Hubble parameter of Ho = 72km/s/Mpc, and assuming for the sake of this problem that the Hubble parameter is constant even if the time we find is very large.

We're also have to find how tall we have to be for that expansion to take one year.

I know it looks like a silly problem but I am just having a hard time finding a place to start thinking about it.

Thanks for taking the time.
 
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I'm not a cosmologist but I'll take a complete shot in the dark at it.

It seems like the Hubble parameter value means that something which is one megaparsec in size will grow to become one megaparsec and 72km in size after one second. Is that right?

If that's true it seems like you'd have to rig up an algebraic equality with ratios, the

[tex]\frac{a}{b} = \frac{c}{d}[/tex]

kinda thing, or an expression with calculus to account for compound growth

Hope I'm not misunderstanding and ridiculously oversimplifying the problem.
 
Moneer81 said:

Homework Statement



So the other day in my cosmology class we talked about whether smaller objects like a solar system, a star or a galaxy expand with the rest of the universe. While the answer is obviously no, since local gravitational forces can overcome that expansion, our professor thought it would be kinda amusing the calculate the effect of that expansion on an object like a human being if we were to expand along with the universe.

So we're asked to find out how long it would it take us to expand by 1mm, given the current value of the Hubble parameter of Ho = 72km/s/Mpc, and assuming for the sake of this problem that the Hubble parameter is constant even if the time we find is very large.

We're also have to find how tall we have to be for that expansion to take one year.

I know it looks like a silly problem but I am just having a hard time finding a place to start thinking about it.

Thanks for taking the time.


Hubble's law is [tex]v= \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t} = H_0 d[/tex]

So you simply need to isolate delta x. This gives by how much the distance between two objects which were initially a distance "d" apart will have increased after a time delta t. (This assumes of course that delta t is not so large that H_0 will have changed value appreciably during that time interval)
 
CaptainQuasar said:
I'm not a cosmologist but I'll take a complete shot in the dark at it.

It seems like the Hubble parameter value means that something which is one megaparsec in size will grow to become one megaparsec and 72km in size after one second. Is that right?

If that's true it seems like you'd have to rig up an algebraic equality with ratios, the

[tex]\frac{a}{b} = \frac{c}{d}[/tex]

kinda thing, or an expression with calculus to account for compound growth

Hope I'm not misunderstanding and ridiculously oversimplifying the problem.


The logic is correct. And it gives the same equation that I provided in my post.
 

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