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Could I find a job in industry after completing only Bachelor's study?

  1. Jul 18, 2012 #1
    hey guys!

    i got accepted for a Bachelor's programm in Physics.. it's an English language program in a non-English speaking country (Germany). This program is not accredited (neither internationally, nor inside the country... i'm not sure if it makes any difference.. )

    I applied for this programm because I am interested in Natural science and I wanted to improve my English language skills by doing Bachelor's in English... plus I thought that German degree is world-wide recognised (though I'm not sure anymore because this program is not accredited)

    ..Now I am hesitating... I have read some threads on this forum (and somewhere else).. People say that It's too hard, almost impossible to find a job having only a Bachelor's degree in Physics.. Also I was told Phisicists have good opportunities (even without German knowledge in Germany) in industry after completing PhD..

    I can not study that long (It would be too hard financially for my family) so my goal is Bachelor's degree after which I could find a job in industry in Germany..

    Please, tell me your thoughts. Is it worth to start these Bachelor's studies in Physics (in English)?
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  3. Jul 18, 2012 #2
    A degree without accreditation is toilet paper. Simple as that.
  4. Jul 19, 2012 #3
    Which university offers the program you are referring to? Are you sure that it is not accredited?
  5. Jul 19, 2012 #4
    I checked ASIIN e.V. (accreditation for German study programms) and also EUR-ACE (recognition by European employers). This program is not on the list.

    ...I asked a few people about accreditation (one of them doing his PhD in Physics) and none knows anything about accreditation.. and I posted my question in another forum dedicated to the Education in Germany and Yahoo Answers! --> all I received is just one sarcastic answer .. so It seems impossible to find out the meaning of the programm of studies' accreditation for the future career.

    Angry Citizen
    do you know any cases when non-accreditated programm had bad impact on the CV? please, tell me if know something.. this is very important for me.

    ..I am thinking now about declining this Programm and starting a German course so that I could improve my German and apply again for another programm (or a few ones to increase my chances) in the next semester. ...Is it worth to do? This way I would loose one semester which I could work towards a degree but I would improve my language skills.
  6. Jul 19, 2012 #5
    - the chances of finding a job in Germany if you don't speak German are severly reduced.

    - living in a country without even planning to learn the language is a dubious endeavor in the first place.

    - from what I've heard pretty much no one hires physicists with a B.Sc., only. It's hard to get facts about this point, though, because few quit university after a B.Sc. (and because there is no job market for physicists in any case - physicists go into fields related to the skills they have in addition to their physics training). The default physics degree in Germany is a PhD.

    - I was under the impression that a course must be accredited in order for you to actually claim your B.Sc. degree afterwards. I may be wrong on that, though. In any case, there seems to be more than one official accredition company for German courses: See this list.

    - if the program is offered at a proper German university (rule of thumb: a public university is a proper one) then just contact them and ask about accredition of the program (and to what extend it is important).

    - as far as I know, some universities offer pre-university courses for high-school students. Some may be taught over the Internet. So if you spent a semester improving your German you could as well look into those courses at the same time.
  7. Jul 19, 2012 #6

    thank you for such an informative answer! ..I will check the link.
    I like your idea about the courses. Probably, that is what I need now. I will look through the courses by the universities with extended deadline.. (because the main deadline July, 15 is passed)
  8. Jul 19, 2012 #7
    I asked only because I wondered which one of the very few (Leipzig, Oldenburg, FH Aachen) is unaccredited. If you don't mind losing a year to learn German, enrolling at a regular university in German is a best solution.
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