Could Mesons Occur Naturally and Interact with Matter?

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The discussion revolves around the natural occurrence of mesons and their interaction with matter, alongside broader questions about matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe. Participants explore theoretical implications and experimental observations related to these topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether equal amounts of matter and antimatter existed at the big bang and how their annihilation would affect the current matter-antimatter asymmetry.
  • There is mention of known asymmetries between matter and antimatter, but participants note that these are insufficient to explain the observed baryon asymmetry.
  • Participants discuss the role of CP violation in contributing to matter-antimatter asymmetry, referencing the BaBar experiment and its findings on B and anti-B interactions.
  • Some propose that antimatter might not exist independently and could be viewed as a subset of matter, suggesting a redefinition of how we perceive matter and antimatter.
  • Regarding mesons, one participant asserts that they can occur naturally and interact with matter, particularly in high-energy environments like stars or through radioactive decay, while noting that mesons are not stable and have short lifetimes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of matter and antimatter, the implications of CP violation, and the stability of mesons. There is no consensus on the questions raised, indicating ongoing debate and exploration.

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Limitations include the complexity of the matter-antimatter asymmetry and the specific conditions under which mesons may interact with matter. The discussion reflects various assumptions and interpretations that remain unresolved.

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Are there any answers to this question? If equal amounts of matter and antimatter were in existence at the big bang surely each annihilation would remove equal amounts of matter and antimatter?
 
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This is one of the big open questions in theoretical physics.

We know of asymmetries between matter and antimatter, but none of them are large enough to produce the observed baryon asymmetry.
 
I've just read up on mesons. Would they occur naturally and do they interact with matter?
 
hubble_bubble said:
Are there any answers to this question? If equal amounts of matter and antimatter were in existence at the big bang surely each annihilation would remove equal amounts of matter and antimatter?
Bear in mind that the asymmetry between matter and antimatter appears to be very small. Today in the universe there are about 10^9 photons for every baryon. So we think (for some reason we don't fully understand, as Nabeshin said) that there was just slightly more matter produced than antimatter, by only 1 part in 10^9. So after it all annihilated, we were left with matter and photons.
 
phyzguy said:
Bear in mind that the asymmetry between matter and antimatter appears to be very small. Today in the universe there are about 10^9 photons for every baryon. So we think (for some reason we don't fully understand, as Nabeshin said) that there was just slightly more matter produced than antimatter, by only 1 part in 10^9. So after it all annihilated, we were left with matter and photons.

Thanks for the answer that makes sense of the situation.
 
hubble_bubble said:
Are there any answers to this question? If equal amounts of matter and antimatter were in existence at the big bang surely each annihilation would remove equal amounts of matter and antimatter?

At least some of the asymmety is due to CP violation. Read up on the BaBar experiment. B and anti-B interactions were observed to lead to stable matter in some cases.
 
carlgrace said:
At least some of the asymmety is due to CP violation. Read up on the BaBar experiment. B and anti-B interactions were observed to lead to stable matter in some cases.

Maybe antimatter is just not meant to exist on its own and is just another component of matter. We think of it as antimatter whereas it is really only a subset of matter.
 
hubble_bubble said:
Maybe antimatter is just not meant to exist on its own and is just another component of matter. We think of it as antimatter whereas it is really only a subset of matter.

Both matter and antimatter are really just plain "matter". Antimatter does not have exotic properties or anything like that. If the universe were dominated by antimatter instead, we would know that as "matter" and the other as "antimatter".
 
hubble_bubble said:
I've just read up on mesons. Would they occur naturally and do they interact with matter?
Yes and yes. Sufficiently high energy radiation can produce mesons. These energy levels are typical of stars and radiation they emit, but can also be due decay of many naturally occurring radioactive isotopes.

Mesons are matter. But I'm guessing you might mean more conventional matter, like atomic nuclei and electrons. Yes, mesons will interact with these.

None of the mesons are stable, however. They all have very short life times.
 

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