Could Spontaneous symmetry breaking cause momentum change in an atom?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of spontaneous symmetry breaking and its potential implications for momentum change in an atom when fired into a vacuum. Participants explore theoretical aspects of symmetry breaking and its effects on subatomic particles and larger systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether spontaneous symmetry breaking could cause a momentum change in an atom, suggesting that fluctuations at the subatomic level might influence the atom's interaction with a wall.
  • Another participant challenges the understanding of spontaneous symmetry breaking, asserting that it does not allow for changes in the form of the system, but rather affects the outcomes in a specific direction.
  • A further explanation is provided regarding the concept, using the example of a pencil balanced on its point to illustrate how symmetry breaking can occur even in macroscopic systems.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification and inquires about the relationship between the underlying laws and the change in momentum of the pencil, questioning the implications of equal probabilities in outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of spontaneous symmetry breaking and its implications. While some seek to understand its effects on momentum, others challenge the initial claims and provide alternative explanations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and implications of spontaneous symmetry breaking, particularly in relation to momentum changes and the nature of outcomes in physical systems.

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If you were to fire a single atom from a fixed point into a chamber of perfect vacuum and measure where it collides with the opposite wall. Could Spontaneous symmetry breaking in the sub atomic particles cause momentum change in the atom, changing the part of the wall the atom interacted with?
If you were to fire a single atom from a fixed point into a chamber of perfect vacuum and measure where it collides with the opposite wall. Could Spontaneous symmetry breaking in the sub atomic particles cause momentum change in the atom, changing the part of the wall the atom interacted with?
 
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No. Do you know what spontaneous symmetry breaking is?
 
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From what I've read A brief summary of how I understand it is that spontaneous symmetry breaking is a process which allows small fluctuations on a sub atomic level to affect aspects of a larger system and when occurring in a spontaneous manner these fluctuations cannot change or distort the form of the system it is occurring in. I had wondered whether through some mechanism I have not heard about the inability of a spontaneous symmetry break to change the form of say an atom could be translated into a small change in momentum. You have answered my question thank you. If you know of no way than that's good enough for me.
 
Matthew-Champion said:
A brief summary of how I understand it is that spontaneous symmetry breaking is a process which allows small fluctuations on a sub atomic level to affect aspects of a larger system
No, that's not what spontaneous symmetry breaking is. It can occur even in macroscopic classical systems.

For example, consider a pencil balanced on its point. There is rotational symmetry in the underlying physical law governing the pencil: it is equally likely to fall over in any direction. However, once it does fall over, it will fall over in some specific direction. So the actual outcome of the physical law in this case is not rotationally symmetric--the pencil falls in one particular direction--even though the underlying physical law is. That is spontaneous symmetry breaking: particular solutions of a physical law do not have a symmetry that the law itself has.
 
Thank you for the clarification. in this example If the pencil is equally likely to fall in any direction is there an aspect of the underlying law I could assign the change in momentum of the pencil to?
an equal possibility of any outcome implies the pencil was stationary at the start of the experiment and then fell?
 
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