I Could the Universe Be Much Older Than 13.8 Billion Years?

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The discussion centers on the possibility that the universe could be older than the widely accepted age of 13.8 billion years. One viewpoint suggests that if an observer were situated outside the observable universe, they might perceive the emergence of light as a sudden event, akin to an explosion, without understanding the context of billions of years of cosmic history. Critics argue that this perspective contradicts established cosmological principles, such as the isotropy and homogeneity of the universe. They emphasize that the 13.8 billion years represents the age of the observable universe, and any speculation beyond that lacks empirical support and is not suitable for discussion in the forum. Ultimately, the thread was closed due to the speculative nature of the ideas presented.
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We think the age of universe is 13.8 billion years old . I think we are wrong.

Let’s pretend we can go outside of our observable universe. Also, let’s say we can go so far out that we do not even see a spec of light from our universe. We see nothing at all, total darkness. When they finally do see the spec of light it will look like an explosion took place and the universe was born out of nothing. From that perspective, there was nothing, something what looks like an explosion must have taken place, and now a spec of light is getting bigger and bigger. (Big Bang)

From the vantage point of an observer situated far beyond our observable universe, who is not aware of the preceding 13.8 billion years of cosmic history, the sudden appearance of light or a "spec of light" could indeed give the impression of a sudden cosmic event, like an explosion, resulting in the birth of the universe.

In this scenario, the observer might not have the context to understand that the light they are witnessing has been traveling for billions of years before reaching them. Instead, they might interpret it as a contemporary event. This interpretation aligns with the idea that observations are relative and dependent on the observer's frame of reference and knowledge. Without the information about the universe's history, the observer might naturally conclude that they are witnessing the birth of the universe at that moment.

The universe can be 27 trillion years old, and we will never know the true age as we could be the observers who are seeing the light from further away than what our current technology can see.

Am I way off on this?
 
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eepshteyn said:
We see nothing at all, total darkness

That is impossible, since universe is assumed to be isotropic and homogenous (on a large scale). You should first learn basics of cosmology before you say something is wrong.
 
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Am I way off on this?
It is a personal theory. Does it fit all the observations?
How does it explain the red shift of light from the most distant sources visible?

We see the universe in all directions, not arriving from one point.
How can you observe the universe from outside the universe?
The 13.8 billion years age of the universe, is the age of our visible universe.
If we cannot see it, it is not part of our universe.
 
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The forum rules do not allow discussion of new speculative ideas that have not been published in an appropriate peer-reviewed journal, so this thread is closed.

(We are not deleting it, to preserve the responses already provided).
 
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