Counterterms Feynman Rules Derivation

In summary, the conversation discusses the derivation of Feynman rules for counterterms in phi-four theory. The process involves writing the Lagrangian in terms of measured physical constants and adjusting the counter-terms to cancel out infinities during calculation. References and resources for further understanding and derivation are provided.
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Does anyone have a link or a reference to somewhere where these rules are explicitly derived for phi-four theory?
 
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I know Peskin/Schroeder talks about phi-fourth theory...I don't have my book in front of me but it might have something of interest (maybe you've already looked at this one).
 
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The derivation of the Feynman rules for the counterterms goes through exactly like the derivation of the Feynman rules for regular interactions: the idea is that the counterterms are just new interactions. Srednicki has a pretty decent derivation of the Feynman rules for a ##\phi^3## interaction in a scalar field theory; you could try your hand at running the same derivation for the counterterms.
 
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The "derivation" of the counterterm rules just involves writing the bare constants as:
[tex]Z = 1 + \delta_Z[/tex]
[tex]Zm_0^2 = m^2 + \delta_m[/tex]
[tex]Z^2 \lambda_0 = \lambda + \delta_\lambda[/tex]

This is just a rewriting of the action, but you have isolated the physical constants before
calculations. If you just place the above relations into the action, the action now has a different free/interacting split. See chapter 10 of Peskin and Schroeder for more details.
 
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IMHO it's easiest to derive and see in the BPH formalism.

What you do is write the Lagrangian in two parts L1 and L2 and L = L1 + L2. L1 is simply the Lagrangian written with the variables, namely the EM and electron fields, the fine structure constant, and the electron mass, as the renormalised values for QED. For the phi 4 theory they are the values of that theory which I can't recall off hand but will give a link to. These are the values you actually measure. But that is not the actual Lagrangian which is in terms of the bare parameters which are divergent - some say they are not really measurable - not so sure about that - but rather they are cutoff dependent and you need to specify a cutoff to determine its value from what you do measure - the renormalised values. So L2 = L - L1 where L is the bare Lagrangian. The parameters of L2 are not specified but rather calculated so that what you are calculate from L is finite. You calculate exactly the same as usual but using L1 - it blows up with infinity - but you adjust the constants in L2 to cancel them so that what you get is finite.

For Phi 4 check out:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1208.4700v1.pdf

For QED check out:
http://bolvan.ph.utexas.edu/~vadim/classes/2012f/qedfr.pdf

Why does it work and what is really going on? - here is the best paper I have come across:
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0212049

But basically the idea is if you express physical theories in terms of what you measure (and those things are not divergent like the bare parameters) then what you calculate from them is also finite - the infinities of the theory are canceled during calculation - so knowing that you simply adjust the undetermined terms (the counter-terms) to do just that. That's why you write the Lagrangian in terms of what you measure and adjust the counter-terms so what you get is finite.

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Bill
 
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1. What are counterterms in the context of Feynman rules derivation?

Counterterms are additional terms that are added to the original Feynman rules in order to account for divergences or infinities that arise during the calculation of loop diagrams. These terms cancel out the divergent parts and ensure that the final result is finite and physically meaningful.

2. How are counterterms determined in Feynman rules derivation?

Counterterms are determined by identifying the divergent parts of the loop diagrams and then adding terms to the original Feynman rules that have the same structure as the divergent terms but with different coefficients. The coefficients are chosen in such a way that they cancel out the divergences, resulting in a finite final result.

3. Why are counterterms necessary in Feynman rules derivation?

Counterterms are necessary because loop diagrams in quantum field theory often result in infinities, which are not physically meaningful. By adding counterterms, these infinities can be cancelled out, ensuring that the final result is finite and physically meaningful.

4. Can counterterms be calculated analytically in Feynman rules derivation?

Yes, counterterms can be calculated analytically using techniques such as dimensional regularization and renormalization. These methods allow for the systematic removal of infinities from loop diagrams, resulting in a finite and physically meaningful final result.

5. Are counterterms unique in Feynman rules derivation?

No, counterterms are not unique. Different choices of counterterms can be made, as long as they cancel out the divergences in the loop diagrams. However, there are certain constraints and symmetries that must be satisfied in order for the final result to be physically meaningful, so the choice of counterterms is not completely arbitrary.

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