Coveting ODE to polar coordinates

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To convert a homogeneous ordinary differential equation (ODE) of the form M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0 into polar coordinates, one can use the substitutions x = rcos(θ) and y = rsin(θ). The chain rule is essential for transforming dy/dx into terms of r and θ, where dy = sin(θ)dr + rcos(θ)dθ and dx = cos(θ)dr - rsin(θ)dθ. The ability to isolate and eliminate r depends on the specific forms of M and N, as the cancellation of r is not guaranteed in all cases. A particular example, such as the equation (2y^4 - 9x^2y^2 - 20x^4)dx - (3xy^3)dy = 0, can illustrate the process further. Understanding these transformations is crucial for simplifying the integration of the ODE.
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Hi, I was wondering how to go about converting a homogeneous ODE of the form M(x,y)dx+N(x,y)dy=0 (where, by definition of a homogeneous ODE, M(tx,ty)=(t^a)M(x,y) and N(tx,ty)=(t^a)N(x,y) ) to polar coordinates. I wan to do this because using substitution of y/x=u and dy/dx=u+xdu/dx to make the ODE separable does not always result in the easiest integration towards the final steps. I figure by making x=rcosθ and y=rsinθ, I can completely isolate and remove r and make the ODE separable in terms of r and θ. I am completely able to convert half of the equation, but have very little idea how to transform dy/dx into something in terms of r and θ. Can anyone explain a little on how to to this?

Thanks,
Mike
 
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You are "coveting" a differential equation? Oh, you shouldn't do that!

You convert from one variable to another (one coordinate system to another) by using the chain rule.

Since y= r sin(\theta), dy= sin(\theta)dr+ r cos(\theta)d\theta and since x= r cos(\theta), dx= cos(\theta)dr- r sin(\theta)d\theta. Also, of course, convert x and y in M(x,y) and N(x,y) into r and \theta.

I am wondering why you think converting to polar coordinates will allow you to "completely isolate and remove r" without giving specific M and N. Obviously whether you can, in fact, remove r, depends on what M and N are.
 
In the case I'm working with, r will be canceled out, obviously except for the r which has come from the product rule when obtaining the conversion of dx and dy. If you would like to see a particular case then I would be more than glad to offer one.

(2*y^4 - 9*x^2*y^2-20*x^4)dx - (3*x*y^3)dy = 0
 

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