Cracking of hydrocarbons and boiling point of salt water

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The discussion revolves around the cracking of hydrocarbons, specifically whether alkenes can be cracked like alkanes, and the boiling point of salt water in relation to distillation processes. It covers theoretical aspects of organic chemistry and practical applications in distillation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether only alkanes can be cracked, suggesting that alkenes may also be cracked, and seeks clarification on the products of such a process.
  • Another participant asserts that alkenes can indeed be cracked, providing an example of cracking butene to yield propene and ethene.
  • Discussion on the boiling point of salt water indicates that it is higher than 100 degrees Celsius, yet thermometer readings during distillation may show 100 degrees, prompting questions about the nature of the mixture being distilled.
  • A participant explains that when two immiscible liquids are combined, the boiling point of the mixture can be lower than that of the individual liquids, although this explanation is challenged regarding its relevance to the salt water question.
  • Another participant clarifies that the distillation context assumed was hydrocarbons mixed with water, rather than just salt water alone.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the boiling point discussion and the nature of the distillation process, indicating that there is no consensus on the relationship between the boiling point of salt water and the distillation process described.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of mixtures in distillation and the specific conditions under which cracking occurs, which may not be fully articulated or agreed upon by all participants.

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Can alkenes be cracked or only alkanes can be cracked? Then what would the products be? Like for alkanes a alkenes must always be formed but what about for alkenes cracking?

Also, when we boil salt water its temperature is 101.4 degrees. But when performing fractional or simple distillation why dots the reading at the thermometer be 100 degrees even though the boiling point is 101.4?

Thanks for the help guys! :smile:
 
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Alkenes can be cracked as well. An example would be cracking butene to yield propene and ethene.

As for distillation, when you combine two immiscible liquids (such as water and alkanes/alkenes), the total vapor pressure of the mixture is the sum of the vapor pressures of the different liquids in the mixture. The result of this is that, as long as the mixture is being stirred, the boiling point of the mixture will be lower than the boiling points of any of the liquids if they were pure.
 
Jasoni22 said:
when you combine two immiscible liquids (such as water and alkanes/alkenes), the total vapor pressure of the mixture is the sum of the vapor pressures of the different liquids in the mixture. The result of this is that, as long as the mixture is being stirred, the boiling point of the mixture will be lower than the boiling points of any of the liquids if they were pure.

I don't see how it addresses the question, NaCl is not a liquid immiscible with water.
 
I was assuming that the distillation was of hydrocarbons mixed in water, since you wouldn't perform fractional distillation of mere salt water with nothing else in it.
 

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