Creating a 4D System with a Specific Solution: How Can It Be Done?

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The discussion revolves around the task of creating a four-dimensional system of equations that has a specific solution, namely (-2, 5, -6, 1). Participants explore different approaches to formulate such a system, considering both simplicity and the potential use of matrices.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the simplest system can be constructed by directly assigning the solution values to each variable, resulting in a straightforward set of equations.
  • Others propose using a matrix representation, specifically the identity matrix, to express the system, with the right-hand side corresponding to the desired solution.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the format of the answer, with questions about whether a matrix representation is necessary or preferred based on the teacher's expectations.
  • Some participants express agreement on the solution approach but note that the notation used may vary.

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Participants generally agree on the basic approach to creating the system, but there is no consensus on the preferred format or notation for presenting the solution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying interpretations of what constitutes a "system" and how it should be represented, indicating potential dependencies on specific educational contexts.

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I know how to solve systems, but the question asks to work backwards.

"Create a 4-d system that has a solution (-2,5,-6,1)."

How would i do this?
 
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sawdee said:
I know how to solve systems, but the question asks to work backwards.

"Create a 4-d system that has a solution (-2,5,-6,1)."

How would i do this?

Hi sawdee! Welcome to MHB! (Smile)

Without any other conditions, we can go for the simplest system that satisfies your requirement.
We can pick the system:
\begin{cases}
x_1=-2 \\
x_2 = 5 \\
x_3 = -6 \\
x_4 = 1
\end{cases}
No point in making it more complicated unless there are more restrictions.
We're talking about math - the simplest solution possible should be considered the best one.
 
I like Serena said:
Hi sawdee! Welcome to MHB! (Smile)

Without any other conditions, we can go for the simplest system that satisfies your requirement.
We can pick the system:
\begin{cases}
x_1=-2 \\
x_2 = 5 \\
x_3 = -6 \\
x_4 = 1
\end{cases}
No point in making it more complicated unless there are more restrictions.
We're talking about math - the simplest solution possible should be considered the best one.

Thank you! :) Happy to be here.

I picked that solution as well, but in terms of format I'm not sure how to set up the answer. Should I use a matrix with those 4 as my x values, and leave everything else as 0?
 
sawdee said:
Thank you! :) Happy to be here.

I picked that solution as well, but in terms of format I'm not sure how to set up the answer. Should I use a matrix with those 4 as my x values, and leave everything else as 0?

It depends a bit on what your teacher considers to be a "system".
If it's supposed to involve a matrix, we can pick the identity matrix with right hand values that correspond to the solution.
That is:
$$\begin{bmatrix}
1&0&0&0\\
0&1&0&0\\
0&0&1&0\\
0&0&0&1\\
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x_1\\
x_2\\
x_3 \\
x_4
\end{bmatrix} =
\begin{bmatrix}
-2 \\
5 \\
-6 \\
1
\end{bmatrix}$$
It's really just the same thing as the "system" I suggested though.
The only difference being what we pick as the notation.
 
I like Serena said:
It depends a bit on what your teacher considers to be a "system".
If it's supposed to involve a matrix, we can pick the identity matrix with right hand values that correspond to the solution.
That is:
$$\begin{bmatrix}
1&0&0&0\\
0&1&0&0\\
0&0&1&0\\
0&0&0&1\\
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x_1\\
x_2\\
x_3 \\
x_4
\end{bmatrix} =
\begin{bmatrix}
-2 \\
5 \\
-6 \\
1
\end{bmatrix}$$
It's really just the same thing as the "system" I suggested though.
The only difference being what we pick as the notation.
I think this is exactly what he wanted, thank you!
 

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