Creating a RL/RC/RLC Circuit model

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The discussion revolves around creating a model for RL, RC, and RLC circuits using differential equations (DE). Participants explore the application of DE in understanding circuit behavior, particularly in relation to voltage, current, and circuit components.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on modeling RL/RC/RLC circuits with differential equations, expressing a desire to understand the application of DE in this context.
  • Another participant notes that the modeling approach depends on the specific circuit configuration and outlines basic principles, including voltage changes, voltage drops across resistors, inductors, and capacitors.
  • The explanation includes relationships between current, charge, and their derivatives, leading to the formulation of a second-degree differential equation for charge in a circuit containing all three components.
  • A later reply acknowledges understanding of the concepts presented, thanking the contributors for their assistance.

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The discussion does not present any explicit areas of disagreement, but it reflects varying levels of understanding and the need for clarification on specific modeling techniques.

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The initial question lacks specificity regarding the circuit configuration, which may affect the modeling approach. The discussion also assumes familiarity with basic electrical engineering concepts and terminology.

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Students studying electrical engineering or physics, particularly those interested in circuit analysis and differential equations.

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Hello! Would someone here guide me in creating a model for a RL/RC/RLC circuit? I have started studying this topic in advanced but I don't quite understand the concept in DE.
I have watched videos from youtube.com and they solve problems using EE such as V=IR. And yes, I am able to answer problems too using theoretical formulas from my EE class. What I want to know is how to apply DE in this topic. I really want to learn this soon because maybe next week, we are going to start on this topic.
Thanks!:-p
 
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Your question is really too vague to give a complete answer. Exactly how you model such a circuit as a differential equation depends on exactly what the circuit is like.

The basic ideas are
1) The total voltage change around a circuit is 0.
2) The voltage drop over a resistor is Ri where i is the current and R the resistance.
3) The voltage drop through a coil is L di/dt where i is the current and L the inductance.
4) The voltatge drop through a capacitor is Q/C where Q is the charge and C is the capacitance (you will have to ask an electrical engineer why C is divided and not multiplied).

Since current is the rate of change of charge, i= dQ/dt and so di/dt= d^2Q/dt^2 and the voltage drop through a resistor is R(dQ/dt) and the voltage change through a coil is L(d^2Q/dt^2).

Since those are all "drops" (negative change in voltage), there must be voltage supplied to the circuit for the total change to be 0. Adding those for a circuit that has all three kinds of objects and setting it equal to the voltage supplied gives you a second degree differential equation for Q.

(It is not a good idea to "bump" a thread after only 8 minutes. That can get you banned!)
 
Thanks! I get it now! Thank you very much physicsforum and HallsofIvy! :biggrin:
 

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