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The discussion revolves around the concept of wave function collapse in quantum mechanics and its relation to human perception, specifically questioning whether the human eye's frame rate implies a periodic creation of reality. The scope includes theoretical interpretations of quantum mechanics and perceptual biology.

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  • One participant suggests that if observers collapse wave functions and the human eye operates at approximately 25 frames per second, reality might be created every 0.04 seconds.
  • Another participant counters this premise, stating it is incorrect to claim that quantum mechanics implies humans "create reality."
  • A different participant notes that the 25 frames per second figure lacks physical significance and is based on historical standards related to television formats and power grids.
  • Another comment emphasizes that the concept of wave function collapse is not a physical process but rather a biological interpretation related to brain activity.
  • One participant mentions having equipment capable of measuring time resolutions down to 3 picoseconds, suggesting this capability challenges the original question.
  • Another participant adds that the universe existed long before human perception, implying that human observation does not dictate the existence of reality.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the original premise, with multiple competing views on the implications of quantum mechanics and human perception. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

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Some statements rely on specific interpretations of quantum mechanics and human biology, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion also touches on historical and technical aspects of frame rates and measurement capabilities.

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hey guys,
this may sound dumb, but if it takes an observer to collapse a wave form and create reality, and if the human eye works at about 25 frames per second, does that mean that we only create everything around us every 0.04 seconds?

thanks.
 
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No. Your premise is simply incorrect. It's not true that QM says a human being "creates reality".
 
"25 frames/sec" has no particular physical or perceptual significance. It's just a rather arbitrary number taken from the PAL TV format. Which in turn is due to the 50 Hz European power grid (North America has a 60 Hz grid, and the 30 fps NTSC standard). And the 50 Hz power grid standard is just due to AEG having decided way back in the 19th century that 50 was a nice, 'almost metric' number that was still large enough to not cause significant flicker in early incandescent bulbs.
 
physics_boi95 said:
hey guys,
this may sound dumb, but if it takes an observer to collapse a wave form and create reality, and if the human eye works at about 25 frames per second, does that mean that we only create everything around us every 0.04 seconds?

thanks.

Observer not collapase wave form - no, not physics - but brains ticking at 40 Hertzs that strobscopes make weird - this biologoy.
 
physics_boi95 said:
hey guys,
this may sound dumb, but if it takes an observer to collapse a wave form and create reality, and if the human eye works at about 25 frames per second, does that mean that we only create everything around us every 0.04 seconds?

thanks.

I have equipments that measure something up to 3 picoseconds time resolution. That fact in itself should falsify your question.

Zz.
 
Not to mention that the universe was around long before human eyes.
 
oh. haha I'm dumb.
 
ZapperZ said:
I have equipments that measure something up to 3 picoseconds time resolution.

Femtoseconds (1E-15) even.
 
alxm said:
Femtoseconds (1E-15) even.

I know there are, but I am not in possession of such equipment or use any regularly.

Zz.
 

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