Criteria for extension to cts fn between metric spaces?

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The discussion revolves around the criteria for extending a function defined on a finite set of points in metric spaces to a continuous function on the entire space. The focus is on identifying minimal restrictions on the metric spaces involved, particularly concerning their connectedness, compactness, and other properties relevant to continuity and extension theorems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a relationship between the connected components of the metric spaces is necessary for extension, assuming both spaces are path-connected and compact.
  • One participant proposes that if points \( x_i \) and \( x_j \) lie in the same connected component, then the corresponding points \( y_i \) and \( y_j \) should also lie in the same component, allowing for the relaxation of path-connectedness under certain conditions.
  • Another participant mentions the need for second countability on space \( Y \) to construct the extension and questions whether completeness of \( Y \) and \( X \) is necessary.
  • A participant provides a counterexample involving the "Topologist's Sine Curve" to illustrate that relaxing path-connectedness could lead to failure in extension if \( Y \) is not compact.
  • One participant notes that the question lacks a straightforward answer and emphasizes that properties preserved under continuous maps must be shared between \( X \) and \( Y \) for the extension to be possible.
  • There is an interest in extending the discussion to countably many points, which could yield significant results for separable metric spaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty and disagreement regarding the necessary conditions for extension, with no consensus on a definitive set of restrictions. The discussion remains unresolved, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific properties of the metric spaces \( X \) and \( Y \), and the unresolved nature of mathematical steps related to the extension criteria.

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Given metric spaces

(X, d_X), (Y, d_Y),

and subsets

\{ x_1, ..., x_n \}, \{ y_1, ..., y_n \}

of X and Y respectively, if I define a function that send x_i to y_i, what are the minimal restrictions we need on X and Y in order for there to exist an extension of that map to a continuous function defined on all of X?

Certainly you'd need some relationship between the connected components of both. So for simplicity, also assume each of the metric spaces are (path) connected. Also assume X and Y are compact.

If you make any assumptions on Y that will allow you to apply Uryshon's lemma or Tietze extension theorem, then it is not very interesting. I'm curious about the minimal set of restrictions on Y needed to find this extension. (Perhaps I'm missing some elementary theorem that would give my answer?).
 
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some_dude said:
Given metric spaces

(X, d_X), (Y, d_Y),

and subsets

\{ x_1, ..., x_n \}, \{ y_1, ..., y_n \}

of X and Y respectively, if I define a function that send x_i to y_i, what are the minimal restrictions we need on X and Y in order for there to exist an extension of that map to a continuous function defined on all of X?

Certainly you'd need some relationship between the connected components of both. So for simplicity, also assume each of the metric spaces are (path) connected. Also assume X and Y are compact.

If you make any assumptions on Y that will allow you to apply Uryshon's lemma or Tietze extension theorem, then it is not very interesting. I'm curious about the minimal set of restrictions on Y needed to find this extension. (Perhaps I'm missing some elementary theorem that would give my answer?).
If xi,xj lie in the same connected component, so should yi,yj : we can relax the condition of path-connectedness with this restriction.
Also, I think we need the condition of second countability on Y to construct such a function. I wonder if completeness of Y and X is necessary.
 
Eynstone said:
If xi,xj lie in the same connected component, so should yi,yj : we can relax the condition of path-connectedness with this restriction.
Also, I think we need the condition of second countability on Y to construct such a function. I wonder if completeness of Y and X is necessary.

Thanks for that.

I'll point out relaxing path-connectedness would fail if you didn't assume Y were compact. E.g., Y = "Topologist's Sine Curve" (see wikipedia), and X = [0, 1]. Then if y_1 = (0,0), y_2 = some other arb pt in Y, and x_1 = 0, x_2 = 1. You'd be unable to extend that to a continuous function, as the compact interval could not be mapped onto the non-compact connected set containing y_1 and y_2.

I asked a mathematician about my original question, and, well, there response would indicate it's unlikely there's a cut and dried answer to be found.
 
some_dude said:
I asked a mathematician about my original question, and, well, there response would indicate it's unlikely there's a cut and dried answer to be found.

In a way, that's right. If X has a property preserved under continuous maps, Y must have the same. The question can be answered only if one specifies what X & Y are.
I found the question interesting because if extended to countably many points, it would yield a telling result for separable metric spaces.
 

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