Cross Product Identity: Solving for (A X B)^2

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The discussion revolves around the identity for the square of the cross product of two vectors, specifically the expression (A X B)^2. Participants are exploring the meaning and implications of this notation in the context of vector mathematics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question the interpretation of squaring a vector, suggesting it could refer to different mathematical expressions such as the dot product or the magnitude squared. Others inquire about the specific notation used in the original poster's homework, seeking clarity on what (V1 X V2)^2 signifies.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the potential meanings of the notation and discussing the implications of different interpretations. There is an emphasis on understanding the definition of squaring a vector before proceeding with calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's homework involves two specific vectors, V1 and V2, and that the results of their calculations yield zero in certain cases. There is a recognition that the notation may not be standard and requires clarification.

Sirius24
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I've been trying to find what the square of two cross products is and can't find it. Can anyone tell me the identity for
(A X B)^2 ?
 
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A \times B is a vector, so do you want
<br /> (A \times B) \times (A \times B) ?<br />

If so, it's not too difficult. For any vector a, can you simplify a \times a?

(For that matter, which definition of the cross product are you using?)
 
Sirius24 said:
I've been trying to find what the square of two cross products is and can't find it. Can anyone tell me the identity for
(A X B)^2 ?

You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
(A x B) x (A x B)

or something else.
 
LCKurtz said:
You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
(A x B) x (A x B)

or something else.

The notation is exactly as I posted it. My homework has two vectors, V1 and V2. The part I'm trying to work with says (V1 X V2)^2. I worked through (V1 X V2) dot (V1 X V2) and (V1 X V2) x (V1 X V2). The result is zero in either case for this problem, but will that always be the case?
 
Sirius24 said:
The notation is exactly as I posted it. My homework has two vectors, V1 and V2. The part I'm trying to work with says (V1 X V2)^2. I worked through (V1 X V2) dot (V1 X V2) and (V1 X V2) x (V1 X V2). The result is zero in either case for this problem, but will that always be the case?

That's not the point. You need to know what that notation means before it makes sense to calculate it. Answer this:

If A = 3i -2j + 5k, what is A2?

Somewhere you must have a definition of what you mean by squaring a vector.
 
LCKurtz said:
You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
The first two of these are the same

(A x B) x (A x B)
True but probably not what was meant- especially since it is trivial.

or something else.
Assuming that "A^2" for A a vector really means "(length of A) squared"
then we know that
|A\times B|= |A||B|sin(\theta)
where \theta is the angle between vectors A and B.

So
(A\times B)^2= |A\times B|^2= |A|^2|B|^2 sin^2(\theta)

You might also recall that
cos(\theta)= \frac{A\cdot B}{|A||B|}
and, of course, sin^2(\theta)= 1- cos^2(\theta).
 

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