Cross Section Calc. in Peskin QFT - How to Deal with g^μν.g_μν?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the unpolarized cross section in quantum field theory (QFT) as presented in Peskin's textbook. Participants are addressing the handling of terms involving the product of metric tensors, specifically ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}##, and its implications in the context of trace calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the numerical value of the product ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}##.
  • Another participant suggests that this product is equal to ##\delta_{\rho}^{\nu}##, indicating a relationship with the Kronecker delta.
  • A follow-up question is raised regarding the trace of the Kronecker delta, which is noted to be 4.
  • Concerns are expressed about the appearance of terms containing ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}## after the calculation of traces, particularly in relation to gamma matrices.
  • Participants mention the complexity of indices and traces in field theory, emphasizing that many indices may be implicit and not explicitly written out.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the numerical value of the trace of the Kronecker delta, but there is no consensus on the handling of the product ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}## and its implications in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of how indices and traces are managed in the calculations, as well as the potential for implicit indices in field theory that may not be fully articulated in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum field theory, particularly in relation to cross section calculations and tensor notation.

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Hello,
I'm doing the calculation of the unpolarized cross section in peskin QFT and i am facing a little obstacle, after the calculation of two traces i get terms containing ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}## and my question is how to deal with them? does this product equal to a numerical value?
Thank you.
 
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newgate said:
does this product equal to a numerical value?
Yes. Are youfamiliar with SR and tensor notation? Do you know what ##g^{\mu\nu}g_{\nu\rho}## would be?
 
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I think it's equal to ##\delta_{\rho}^{\nu}##...
 
Indeed, so what is the trace of the Kronecker delta?
 
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4 but terms containing ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}## come after the calculation of traces!
Thanks
 
newgate said:
4 but terms containing ##g^{\mu \nu}.g_{\mu \nu}## come after the calculation of traces!
Thanks
It comes after calculating the traces of gamma matrices whose indices generally are suppressed, this is a trace of the Lorentz indices.
 
Ok Orodrui thank very much :)
 
Just be aware that generally there will be loads of indices and traces which are implicit in field theory (and in particular gauge theory). Lorentz indices, spinor indices, group indices, flavour indices, etc. They may not always be written out but implicit because writing them out explicitly would fill your pages with a mountain of indices.
 
Ok i'll keep that in mind :D Thank you
 

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