Current Electricity Homework: Rnet~l2/A & Variables

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of current electricity, specifically focusing on resistance, electric fields, and drift velocity in various conductor configurations. Participants are analyzing the relationship between resistance, resistivity, and geometric factors in the context of a circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the proportionality of resistance to length squared and area, questioning the constancy of electric fields and drift velocities across different configurations. There are attempts to clarify the three-dimensional shapes of the objects involved and their implications on the electric field and current density.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the physical setup of the problem and the implications for electric field behavior. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between current, resistance, and geometry, with no clear consensus reached on the interpretations of the configurations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of clarity regarding the three-dimensional representations of the objects in the problem, which may affect their understanding of the electric field and current density. There is also mention of specific options related to the configurations that are not fully understood.

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Homework Statement



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Note: ~ stands for proportionality sign and p stands for resistivity.

The Attempt at a Solution



R=pl/A
Rnet~l2/A
V is constant across each conductor, so magnitude of electric field must be constant for every case. Since drift velocity depends on electric field, it is also constant for all. Wrong

Total current I in the circuit is constant in every case. But current density is constant only in A as area perpendicular to the current flow is constant. Correct.

Resistance per unit volume and Power dissipated per unit volume both are variables for all as both are functions of distance. Correct.

The only problem is with drift velocity and electric field.
 

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Abdul Quadeer said:

Homework Statement



Refer figure

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32966&stc=1&d=1299855441"


Note: ~ stands for proportionality sign and p stands for resistivity.

The Attempt at a Solution



R=pl/A
Rnet~l2/A
V is constant across each conductor, so magnitude of electric field must be constant for every case. Since drift velocity depends on electric field, it is also constant for all. Wrong

Total current I in the circuit is constant in every case. But current density is constant only in A as area perpendicular to the current flow is constant. Correct.

Resistance per unit volume and Power dissipated per unit volume both are variables for all as both are functions of distance. Correct.

The only problem is with drift velocity and electric field.

It's not too clear to me what the objects in C and D look like in three dimensions. Also, the configuration of the electrodes in C is not clear.

Use the differential form of your equation:

dR=\frac{\rho}{A}\,d\ell\,,

then integrate.

Also, I=\int_S\vec{J}\cdot\vec{dA}\,,

dV=-\vec{E}\cdot\vec{d\ell}

and \vec{E}=\rho\vec{J}\,,
 
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I still don't get the answer.
Using your expressions, I got that E depends on x or r in every case i.e. it is not constant.
option (p) is included for (B) and (C) and option (s) for (A) only.
 
It's still not clear to me: what objects are in C & D !

Spheres with spherical cavities? (Then how are they different? Is part of the electrode buried in C?)

Looking at the end of cylinders?

Ellipsoid with spherical cavity, or sphere with elliptical cavity.

Why is part of the wire going to the inside of C straight?
 
This question now seems unclear to me too. Let's close this topic.
 

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