Curvature and Tangent Line Distance Relationship

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between the radius of curvature and the distance from the origin to the tangent line of the curve defined by the equation x^{\frac{2}{3}} + y^{\frac{2}{3}} = a^{\frac{2}{3}}, a > 0. It is established that the radius of curvature R at point P(x,y) is three times the distance from the origin to the tangent line T. The curvature K is calculated using the formula K = 3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}} + \frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}(xy)^{\frac{3}{2}}, leading to R = \frac{1}{3K}. Implicit differentiation is necessary to derive the first and second derivatives of the curve.

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Homework Statement



Let T be the tangent line at the point P(x,y) to the graph of the curve ##x^{\frac{2}{3}}+y^{\frac{2}{3}}=a^{\frac{2}{3}}, a>0##. Show that the radius of curvature at P is three times the distance from the origin to the tangent line T.

Homework Equations


R=1/K
##R=\frac{\left ( 1+\left ( y' \right )^2 \right )^{2/3}}{y''}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having quite a lot of trouble figuring out where to begin this problem. I know that I need to find the curvature and radius of curvature of the given curve, but just find that is confusing to me.

To begin I used Wolfram Alpha to evaluate what the curvature and radius of curvature would be. I get the result that
##K=3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}}+\frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}\left ( x\cdot y \right )^{\frac{3}{2}}##
##R=\frac{1}{3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}}+\frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}\left ( x\cdot y \right )^{\frac{3}{2}}}##

I'm not sure how this conclusion is made considering it is unclear to me how to actually differentiate the original equation to find K or R.

I know that the distance from the origin to the point P could be found by integrating the magnitude of the derivative of th original equation equation, but I am not sure how to integrate this way either.

I was thinking maybe I could give "a" an arbitrary value like 1 so that I might actually be able to differentiate it, yet I am not sure about it. Is there any differentiation technique that I should be looking specifically at to help me find the derivative of ##x^{\frac{2}{3}}+y^{\frac{2}{3}}=a^{\frac{2}{3}}, a>0##?

Or am i going about this problem completely wrong and should think of curvature and the tangent line in a different sense?
 
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Does anyone have a hint? I have been working on this problem in between my breaks at school, and can't understand where to start.
 
TyroneTheDino said:

Homework Statement



Let T be the tangent line at the point P(x,y) to the graph of the curve ##x^{\frac{2}{3}}+y^{\frac{2}{3}}=a^{\frac{2}{3}}, a>0##. Show that the radius of curvature at P is three times the distance from the origin to the tangent line T.

Homework Equations


R=1/K
##R=\frac{\left ( 1+\left ( y' \right )^2 \right )^{2/3}}{y''}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having quite a lot of trouble figuring out where to begin this problem. I know that I need to find the curvature and radius of curvature of the given curve, but just find that is confusing to me.

To begin I used Wolfram Alpha to evaluate what the curvature and radius of curvature would be. I get the result that
##K=3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}}+\frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}\left ( x\cdot y \right )^{\frac{3}{2}}##
##R=\frac{1}{3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}}+\frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}\left ( x\cdot y \right )^{\frac{3}{2}}}##

I'm not sure how this conclusion is made considering it is unclear to me how to actually differentiate the original equation to find K or R.
Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx in your equation ##x^{2/3} + y^{2/3} = a^{2/3}##.
TyroneTheDino said:
I know that the distance from the origin to the point P could be found by integrating the magnitude of the derivative of th original equation equation, but I am not sure how to integrate this way either.
The distance from the origin to P(x, y) is ##\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}##. This is a point on the graph whose equation is given, so I would look for using that equation to get the distance in terms of x alone.
TyroneTheDino said:
I was thinking maybe I could give "a" an arbitrary value like 1 so that I might actually be able to differentiate it, yet I am not sure about it. Is there any differentiation technique that I should be looking specifically at to help me find the derivative of ##x^{\frac{2}{3}}+y^{\frac{2}{3}}=a^{\frac{2}{3}}, a>0##?

Or am i going about this problem completely wrong and should think of curvature and the tangent line in a different sense?
 
Mark44 said:
Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx in your equation x2/3+y2/3=a2/3x^{2/3} + y^{2/3} = a^{2/3}.


When differentiating is it okay if I say that a^(2/3) will be a constant?
 
TyroneTheDino said:
When differentiating is it okay if I say that a^(2/3) will be a constant?
Yes
 
For differentiating the first equation I get##-\frac{\sqrt[3]{y}}{\sqrt[3]{x}}##. And when I do the second derivative, and I end up with ##\left ( \frac{1}{3} \right )\sqrt[3]{\frac{y}{x^4}}##.

Using these values I get

##\frac{3\left ( \frac{x^\frac{2}{3}+y^{\frac{3}{2}}}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}} \right )^{\frac{3}{2}}}{\left ( \frac{1}{3} \right )\sqrt[3]{\frac{y}{x^4}}}##

as the curvature, but I think that looks like it is going in the wrong direction still.

Considering that when I typed the original equation. I got the result that the curvature of the radius is

##3\sqrt{\frac{1}{x^{\frac{2}{3}}}+\frac{1}{y^{\frac{2}{3}}}}(xy)^{2/3}##

Is there anything that you can suggest I am making a mistake on?
 

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