D'Alambertian operator on the heaviside function?

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The discussion centers around the computation of the D'Alembertian operator applied to the Heaviside function, specifically in the context of distributions and their properties. Participants explore the implications of applying derivatives to the Heaviside function and related distributions, as well as the challenges of multiplying distributions in theoretical frameworks.

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  • One participant inquires about computing the D'Alembertian operator on the Heaviside function, noting that the first derivative yields the Dirac delta function.
  • Another participant explains that Heaviside and Dirac delta functions are distributions defined by their action on test functions, providing an integral-based approach to understanding their derivatives.
  • A different participant raises a specific case involving the product of distributions, questioning how the previously mentioned derivative results apply to their scenario with solutions to the complex Klein-Gordon equation.
  • One participant asserts that the multiplication of three distributions is mathematically ill-defined in classical distribution theory, mentioning Colombeau's theory as a potential resolution to this issue.

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Participants express differing views on the treatment of distributions, particularly regarding the multiplication of distributions and the application of the D'Alembertian operator. No consensus is reached on how to handle the specific case presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in classical distribution theory regarding the multiplication of distributions and the need for alternative frameworks like Colombeau's theory. The assumptions underlying the computations and the definitions of the distributions are not fully resolved.

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Hey guys,

How does one compute the following quantity:

[itex]\Box \theta(x_{0})=\partial_{0}\partial^{0}\theta(x_{0})[/itex]?

I know that [itex]\partial_{0}\theta(x_{0})=\delta(x_{0})[/itex] which is the Dirac delta, but what about the second derivative?

Thanks everyone!
 
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Heaviside and Dirac delta are examples of distributions. They are a kind of generalized function, and only defined by their action on some "test function" in an inner-product. Integrals satisfy the properties of inner products, so choosing some smooth function [itex]\varphi (x)[/itex] that vanishes at infinity, we have,
[tex]\int \partial_x\delta(x)\varphi(x) dx = -\int \delta(x) \partial_x \varphi(x) dx = -\partial_x\varphi(0)[/tex]
using integration by parts.

So the action of the distribution [itex]\partial_x^2 \theta(x)[/itex] on a smooth function [itex]\varphi(x)[/itex] produces [itex]-\partial_x\varphi(0)[/itex]
 
hmm but my situation involves no integrals - basically I'm trying to compute the following:

[itex]\Box [\theta(x_{0})\phi(x)\phi^{\dagger}(0)][/itex]

where [itex]\phi, \phi^{\dagger}[/itex] are solutions to the complex Klein-Gordon equation.

I've been told that [itex]\partial^{0}\theta(x_{0})=\partial_{0}\theta(x_{0})=\delta(x_{0})[/itex]. I'm not sure how this matches up to what you said above?
 
That product is mathematically ill-defined, because you have a multiplication of 3 distributions. In the so-called classical theory of distributions, there's no way to 'multiply' them.
As a note (rumor), I heard that Colombeau's theory of distributions somehow addresses this issue.
 

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