Dangers of Short Wave UV Light for Glass Artists

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The discussion revolves around the safety concerns related to the use of shortwave UV light for detecting tin coatings on window glass, particularly in the context of glass art. Participants explore the potential dangers of UV exposure to eyes and skin, as well as safety measures that can be taken while using such devices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Bea expresses concern about the safety of using a shortwave UV light for detecting tin coatings on glass, specifically regarding potential harm to eyes and skin.
  • Some participants clarify that not all windows have a tin coating and that float glass is commonly used in windows.
  • One participant notes that shortwave UV light (UVC) is more dangerous due to its higher energy compared to longwave UV light (UVA), which is used in laboratory settings.
  • Recommendations for safety include wearing UV safety goggles and avoiding direct exposure to the UV light, as looking directly at it can cause temporary eye damage.
  • Another participant suggests using UV-resistant goggles and a full face shield for additional protection, emphasizing the importance of not directing the lamp towards the face.
  • Bea shares that a representative from a UV device company indicated that the device may be safe for hobbyist use if precautions are taken, such as not looking directly at the light.
  • There is a mention of UV lamps being used in various applications, including checking for counterfeit money, though the specific UV range used for that purpose is uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of safety precautions when using UV light, particularly avoiding direct exposure. However, there is some disagreement regarding the necessity of protective eyewear, with differing opinions on whether it is required for hobbyist use.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the intensity of the UV lamp and the duration of exposure may influence the level of risk, but these factors remain unspecified in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Glass artists, hobbyists using UV light for detection purposes, and individuals interested in safety measures related to UV exposure may find this discussion relevant.

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I am about to purchase a devise to use for the detection of tin coating on window glass. I am a glass artist who fuses glass in a kiln. I know that, in the manufacturing process of the window glass, a tin coating is applied to one side . For my work, I need to know which is the tin coated side. This would be the unusable side. Glassiers do not know this, nor do they need to know. The only test around seems to be this device in which you aim a Shot Wave UV light onto the glass which is placed behind the light. The presence of tin will cause that side of the glass to glow. ***MY conern is the dangers, if any, to my eyes, skin etc. when using the UV light, i.e simply being in the presence of the light... though it will not be directed toward me.

Thanks,
Bea
 
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That sounds interesting, do all windows have a coating of tin? I guess only float glass does, is this the main type of glass used in windows?

In the lab we use longwave UV (UVA 315-400 nm) to detect DNA by EtBr staining. Shortwave UV light (UVC 180-280 nm) is more dangerous, since it is more energetic.

You should always wear UV safety goggles when handling the device, so that your eyes are protected from exposure. Looking directly into a shortwave light for an extended period of time can certainly cause temporary damage to your eyes.
I'm not sure what the intensity of the UV lamp is and how long you will be exposing yourself to it, I think it will be hard to get enough exposure to damage skin ('sunburn').
 
I am assuming you are doing something similar to http://uvp.com/new/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=45 (find link to "ID of Air/Tin side of glass" about 1/2 way down page on the left, I couldn't directly link for some reason).

This uses a ~250 nM UV lamp, which gets used regularly in many science applications. Our safety measures consist of, at a minimum, UV resistant goggles, and preferably a UV resistant full face shield. This may be worth the money as it could serve double duty for other safety applications in your art work. As far as use of these lamps is concerned, the lamp is never directed toward the face. Since you are only looking for UV induced fluorescence, this should not be a problem. For skin protection, you could wear gloves and normal clothing, but you most likely will not be exposed for long periods of time and for your application you may not even need your hands near the glass anyway. If you want more advice or a second opinion, give the company from the above link a call. They are friendly and should be able to hlep you out (I don't work for them :biggrin: ).
 
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Thank you Monique and DocToxyn for your input to my query.

The link DocToxyn directed me to is a company called Ultra-Violet Products which manufactures various devices for tin detection and mainly used for automotive and architectural glass. I called the company. The responder suggested that the devise I mentioned in my original query to Physics Forum seemed adequate for my needs as a hobbyist because of its quick, short term per piece of float glass I test as I buy it. I was mainly warned NOT to look at the light and that I would probably not need protective eyeware (which they also sell.) as long as I am CAREFUL. I'd guess that since the device is placed directly against the glass and I view it thru a small viewing filter, that would makes it safe. I plan to be careful when I use this "made for hobbyist" device.

Thanks again
Bea
 
It good you called them :) I too think you will be safe as long as you don't look directly in the lamp, afterall, UV lamps are found at almost every cash register for checking counterfeit money (although I'm not sure in what UV range those are).
 

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