De Borglie's wavelength equation

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The problem involves a molecule that is 3 nanometers wide and weighs 5 x 10^-15 kg, which is being fired through a slit that is 5 nanometers wide. The original poster is trying to determine the speed at which the molecule must travel to exhibit diffraction, referencing De Broglie's wavelength equation.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the size of the slit and the wavelength for diffraction to occur. There are questions about the definition of diffraction and its significance in relation to the problem. Some suggest experimenting with different values for speed to see how it affects the wavelength.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly the relationship between the slit width and the wavelength. Some have provided clarifications and corrections regarding the units involved, while others are questioning the implications of the mass and size of the molecule in relation to diffraction.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the conversion of nanometers to meters, which impacts the calculations being discussed. The original poster and others are also considering the implications of the molecule's mass in relation to typical molecular weights.

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A molecule is 3 nanometers wide and weighs 5 x 10^-15kg. It is fired through a slit that is 5 nanometers wide. Approximately how slow does the molecule have to go so that it diffracts?

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I'm thinking that I could use De Borglie's wavelength equation: λ=h/m=h/mv and then solve for v but since I don't know that lambda is I don't see how I can use it.

Does anyone have a clue on how to solve this?
 
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What is "diffraction'?
 


voko said:
What is "diffraction'?

Quote from Wiki: "Diffraction refers to various phenomena which occur when a wave encounters an obstacle. In classical physics, the diffraction phenomenon is described as the apparent bending of waves around small obstacles and the spreading out of waves past small openings"
 


The question is, is there any relation between the size of the obstacle and some characteristic of the wave for diffraction to become significant?
 


voko said:
The question is, is there any relation between the size of the obstacle and some characteristic of the wave for diffraction to become significant?

If I remember correctly, doesn't the wavelength have to be pretty small in order for the particle to diffract? So could I try different values for v and see what my λ turns out to be?

I still don't understand what the slit width has to do with the question. Is it just there to show that the particle is able to go through it?
 


You quoted Wiki: "spreading out of waves past small openings". How "small" must the opening be for spreading to become significant?
 


Ahh, so the wavelength should be approximately the size of the slit right?
 


Correct.
 


voko said:
Correct.

Alright so since the width length 5nm, λ≈5nm or 5x10^-6m

So v=h/(5*10^(-15)*5x10^-6m)≈2.65*10^-14m/s

Is that reasonable? It seems like that is an extremely slow speed...
 
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Yes, it has to be slow, but not quite as slow. 1 nm is 10^-9 m, not 10^-6 m.
 
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voko said:
Yes, it has to be slow, but not quite as slow. 1 nm is 10^-9 m, not 10^-6 m.


Oh yeah, sorry about that. And thank you so much for the help, it was very informative.
 
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athymy said:
Alright so since the width length 5nm, λ≈5nm or 5x10^-6m

So v=h/(5*10^(-15)*5x10^-6m)≈2.65*10^-14m/s

Is that reasonable? It seems like that is an extremely slow speed...

Well, it was an extremely big molecule.

Think: water molecule, for example has molar mass of M=0.018 kg. The mass of one molecule is M/A (A is the Avogadro number, 6x1023) So the mass of a water molecule is about 3x10-26 kg.

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