Decay of Radium Finding Kinetic Energy of products

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The discussion revolves around the decay of radium and the calculation of kinetic energy for the decay products, specifically focusing on the energy balance and momentum conservation in the context of particle physics.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between energy and momentum in the decay process, questioning the correctness of unit conversions and rearrangements in the equations presented. There is a focus on the kinetic energy of the alpha particle and whether the energy balance holds with the given values.

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Some participants have raised concerns about unit consistency and the validity of the equations used. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the calculations, and one participant indicates a need to revisit the problem with fresh eyes. Guidance has been offered regarding the energy and momentum relationships, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations.

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Participants note potential issues with unit conversions and the setup of the equations, indicating that there may be missing information or assumptions that need clarification. The discussion reflects a learning process where participants are actively questioning and refining their understanding of the problem.

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I'm pretty sure my method is correct but I'm getting small answers:

$$
COM \\ \\

E_{6}= E_{2}+E_{\alpha}
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Minus \ E_{2} \ and \ square \ both\ sides\\

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E_{6}^{2}+E_{2}^{2}-2E_{2}E_{6}=E_{\alpha}^{2}\\ \\

E_{6}^{2}= m_{6}^{2}c^{4}\\
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E_{2}^{2}= \rho_{\alpha}^{2}c^{2} + m_{2}^{2}c^{4}\\ \\
E_{\alpha}^{2}= \rho_{\alpha}^{2}c^{2} + m_{\alpha}^{2}c^{4}\\ \\

Rearranging \ I \ get: \\ \\
E_{2}=\frac{(m_{6}^{2}+m_{2}^{2}-m_{\alpha}^{2})c^{4}}{2E_{6}}$$

Now this is where I get strange results (probably my units), if I sub in for $$E_{6}$$ and insert numerical values I get:

$$E_{2}=\frac{(8.71\cdot 10^{10})(\frac{MeV}{c^{2}})^{2}c^{4}}{2\cdot (210541.379)(\frac{MeV}{c^{2}})c^{2}}= \frac{(8.71\cdot 10^{10})(\frac{MeV}{c^{2}})c^{2}}{2\cdot (210541.379)}$$

Which is 206808MeV. Then if I divide by c^2 I get ~7x10^-4 MeV/c^2 which is really small?

 
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What do you get for the kinetic energy of the alpha particle?
Does the energy balance work out with those numbers?

If yes, what are the velocities of the particles - does that conserve momentum?

If not, something went wrong. Probably in the "rearranging" part that you did not show.
 
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mfb said:
What do you get for the kinetic energy of the alpha particle?
Does the energy balance work out with those numbers?

If yes, what are the velocities of the particles - does that conserve momentum?

If not, something went wrong. Probably in the "rearranging" part that you did not show.

I get $$E_{\alpha}= \sqrt{E_{6}^{2}+E_{2}^{2}-2E_{6}E_{2}}$$

Now I'm really confused (it's getting late in the day!) because:

$$E_{6}= m_{6}^{2}c^{4}= (210541.379)^{2}(\frac{MeV}{c^{2}})^{2}c^{2}=147(\frac{MeV}{c})^{2}$$

Why do I have (MeV)^2?

Think I'll start this one fresh in the morning, I think I'm getting the units all mixed up. Not sure why I divided by c^2 at the end of the OP.
 
rwooduk said:
$$E_{6}= m_{6}^{2}c^{4}$$
That part cannot be right, the units do not match. I guess the energy should be squared.
 
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Before decay you have ## \mathbf{p}_0 = 0 ## and ## E_{Ra} ## (on cm frame) . After decay, you have ## \mathbf{p}_a + \mathbf{p}_{Rn} ## and ## E_{a} + E_{Rn} ##. All are vector components so, as @mfb say, may be squared.
 
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Yes, thank you both, you are right I have it now!
 

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