Muons Decaying on Mt Washington: Expert Answers

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The discussion centers on the concept of length contraction in Special Relativity as it pertains to muons decaying on Mt. Washington. A key point established is that in the muon’s rest frame, the decay time is 2.2 µs, and without length contraction, the distance to the Earth's surface would be 660 meters in the Earth frame. The conversation clarifies that the differences in measurements of distance and time between reference frames are not manipulations of physical space but rather reflections of the nature of spacetime. The confusion often arises from equating "observer" with "reference frame," which can lead to misunderstandings in relativity.

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Length contraction from Muons perspective
Dear Experts,
Currently I am reading up on Special Relativity.
I struggle to understand how from the perspective of the Muon that the distance to the surface of the Earth is contracted and thus more Muons arrive at the surface based detector.
How can this be? To me the physical space is real between the muon and the surface and thus cannot be manipulated. How can this space be „contracted“ so that the muons arrive faster?
I am aware of length and time dilation and is related to observers etc but I am not referring to this. I referring to the muon reference frame...
Any clarity is appreciated! Thanks
 
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It is one and the same thing: in the muon rest frame, the decay time is 2.2 ##\mu##s. So, even at close to the speed of light the length decay distance would only be 660 m (in the Earth frame) without length contraction. In the Earth frame the time dilation factor is the dame as the length contraction factor in the muon frame. It's nicely described on the first pagehttp://www.pas.rochester.edu/~advlab/reports/pelcher_rapach_muon.pdf.
 
bugatti79 said:
To me the physical space is real between the muon and the surface and thus cannot be manipulated.

This is a conceptual hurdle to get over. If what you say were true, then there would be no SR. But, as there is SR, your preconceptions must be misplaced.
 
The "real thing" is spacetime. How you divide that into space and time is a matter of choice, although there's an obvious way to do it for each observer.

Two reference frames in relative motion have different natural choices, so they measure different things and call them both "distance through space". So no-one is manipulating space - the two frames just mean different things when they talk about space.
 
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bugatti79 said:
I am aware of length and time dilation and is related to observers etc but I am not referring to this. I referring to the muon reference frame...
"Observer" is often used as a synonym for "reference frame" in the context of SR, which leads to a lot of confusion.
 
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bugatti79 said:
I am aware of length and time dilation and is related to observers etc but I am not referring to this. I referring to the muon reference frame...

Just have the observer be at rest in the rest frame of the muon.
 

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