Muon Lifespan: How We Measure Decaying of Muons

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of muon lifespan, specifically addressing how scientists determined the average lifespan of 2.2µs before the advent of relativity and time dilation theories. Participants explore the implications of muon decay in different frames of reference and the methods used to measure their lifespan.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how the lifespan of muons was known without the framework of relativity and time dilation.
  • One participant suggests that slow muons can be produced, allowing for effective measurement of their rest half-life.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a half-life does not determine the lifespan of an individual muon, drawing an analogy to human populations.
  • It is noted that muons serve as an example of relativity due to the ease of producing slow-moving muons, the availability of high-energy relativistic muons from cosmic rays, and the short lifetime of muons allowing for observable decay.
  • One participant raises the historical context, mentioning that since muons were discovered in 1936, the question of their lifespan prior to relativity did not arise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the historical understanding of muon lifespan and the implications of relativity. There is no consensus on how the lifespan was determined before the theory of relativity, and the discussion includes multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the historical context of muon discovery and the dependence on definitions of lifespan versus half-life. The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the measurement methods used prior to relativity.

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Hello,
I know that muons have an average lifespan of 2.2µs. What I'm curious about is given that we do not yet know of relativity and time dilation how were they able to know that in a frame at rest with the muons that's their life span. Or is it that we only knew of their actual life span after the advent of relativity, that by measuring the speed and the time interval of the two events of muon creation and decay we were able to find their proper life span ?
 
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It is possible to produce slow muons, so their rest half life can be effectively measured.

The rest of your comment is unintellible. A half life does not determine the life span of an individual muon; the life expectancy of a human population does not determine the life span of an individual.
 
medwatt said:
Hello,
I know that muons have an average lifespan of 2.2µs. What I'm curious about is given that we do not yet know of relativity and time dilation how were they able to know that in a frame at rest with the muons that's their life span.

Easy... We measure the lifespan of slowly moving muons.

We point to muons as an example of relativity at work because of three happy coincidences:
1) It's easy to produce slow-moving muons so we know what their lifetime is when they aren't moving at relativistic velocities.
2) We also have an abundant source of high-energy relativistic muons from cosmic rays to compare with.
3) The muon lifetime is short enough that we can observe them decay. If they lived much longer, they wouldn't need time dilation to live long enough to reach the ground.
 
medwatt said:
Hello,
I know that muons have an average lifespan of 2.2µs. What I'm curious about is given that we do not yet know of relativity and time dilation how were they able to know that in a frame at rest with the muons that's their life span. Or is it that we only knew of their actual life span after the advent of relativity, that by measuring the speed and the time interval of the two events of muon creation and decay we were able to find their proper life span ?
I think what you are asking is how scientists explained the long life of muons entering the atmosphere prior to the theory of relativity but since muons were not discovered until 1936, the issue never came up.
 

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