Deceptive Japanese Whaling Season Begins

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In summary, the Japanese whaling fleet is attempting to hide their whaling activities under the guise of "scientific research." They are facing a new enemy in Godzilla, and some of the whales they are slaughtering are on endangered lists.
  • #141
Mech_Engineer said:
They aren't breaking the treaty, so there isn't a whole lot that can be done. Action might be warranted if they are endangering survival of a species, but to my knowledge they are not.

Alternate answer: American voters could choose to end their military protectorate of Japan; a massive expense, in protest, or reduce it funding for it.
 
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  • #142
DaveC426913 said:
If they're selling the whales commercially and not conducting scientifc research on them then they're violating the spirit of the treaty.

The spirit of such a treaty recognizes that you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. There is some scientific merit to examining a whale. So, though a few may have to be killed, it is for the greater good of the whales in the long tem.

They could easily be conducting population research into species size, weight, sex, relative health etc., and selling the whales after the data is taken. This would be in my opinion getting more out of the whales' deaths than just scientific research- they're getting research and delicious whale steaks...
 
  • #143
nismaratwork said:
Okubyou-jin, that answers one question.

Posting in other languages does nothing to advance this thread, so either have the courage to say what you mean or don't post.
 
  • #144
nismaratwork said:
Alternate answer: American voters could choose to end their military protectorate of Japan; a massive expense, in protest, or reduce it funding for it.

Doing that would require allowing Japan to have its own military force- something may countries in the region do not want based on past events.
 
  • #145
Mech_Engineer said:
Doing that would require allowing Japan to have its own military force- something may countries in the region do not want based on past events.

True... yet the voters could still demand it despite the political cost given incentive. Another answer; allow people to hunt whalers. I'm not joking at all: modify the treaty.

edit: Seriously, can you imagine the medical research that can be done on that many HUMANS?! In addition an industry could be made tinning whalers to satisfy Japan's odd fascination with that cannibal.
 
  • #146
nismaratwork said:
True... yet the voters could still demand it despite the political cost given incentive. Another answer; allow people to hunt whalers. I'm not joking at all: modify the treaty.

Would the whalers be allowed to shoot back? If so, the TV show Whale Wars would get a lot more interesting real fast...

nismaratwork said:
edit: Seriously, can you imagine the medical research that can be done on that many HUMANS?! In addition an industry could be made tinning whalers to satisfy Japan's odd fascination with that cannibal.

This isn't helping this thread.
 
  • #147
Mech_Engineer said:
Would the whalers be allowed to shoot back? If so, the TV show Whale Wars would get a lot more interesting real fast...

Of course! Hell, try stopping them! In fact, we could make revenue selling weapons to both sides and televising, as you imply.
 
  • #148
Mech_Engineer said:
Would the whalers be allowed to shoot back? If so, the TV show Whale Wars would get a lot more interesting real fast...



This isn't helping this thread.

Neither are you, but it's not stopping you from posting. On the other hand, I'm absolutely serious. If we're going to be grossly unethical and homicidal, why not gain some benefit? It's not as though any doctors are involved anyway.
 
  • #149
nismaratwork said:
On the other hand, I'm absolutely serious. If we're going to be grossly unethical and homicidal, why not gain some benefit? It's not as though any doctors are involved anyway.

Are you claiming that whaling is the same as homicide?
 
  • #150
Mech_Engineer said:
Are you claiming that whaling is the same as homicide?

Not in the slightest; I'd have to see convincing multiple peer-reviewed studies showing cetacean SAPIENCE, not just intelligence before I'd ever say or think that.

I just happen to think that it would be an elegant, entertaining, and economic solution to a problem. The three sweet E's! :smile:
 
  • #151
nismaratwork said:
You're not Japanese? What a pity. I asked if you were Japanese, then I called you a word that's difficult to translate, but "Person who shows moral cowardice" would be an accurate translation.

Thanks for spelling me off Mech, he can turn his guns on you for a while. :biggrin:


And I think it's safe to say the signal to noise ratio of this thread is approaching zero.
 
  • #152
DaveC426913 said:
Thanks for spelling me off Mech, he can turn his guns on you for a while. :biggrin:


And I think it's safe to say the signal to noise ratio of this thread is approaching zero.

My pleasure, when I was a boy I did a lot of babysitting, and I agree with your latter statement as well.
 
  • #153
Thread bedtime.
 

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