Decoding the Superiority of Synthetic Oil for Cold Start Engine Wear

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The discussion centers around the comparative advantages of synthetic oil over conventional oil specifically regarding cold start engine wear. Participants explore the reasons behind the perceived superiority of synthetic oils in this context, examining molecular size, viscosity, and chemical properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the logic behind synthetic oil's superiority for cold starts, suggesting that smaller molecules in conventional oil should provide better lubrication in tight spaces.
  • Another participant counters that the 'tight spaces' in engines are larger than the molecules in synthetic oil, asserting that synthetic oils are engineered to maintain viscosity at extreme temperatures, which benefits cold starts.
  • It is noted that synthetic oils have fewer volatile compounds and higher resistance to thermal breakdown and oxidation, contributing to their performance.
  • A participant inquires about the processes that determine oil viscosity, seeking detailed explanations of the chemical and physical factors involved.
  • Another participant proposes that synthetic oil is produced through processes like Fischer Tropsch and mentions that mineral oil viscosity is influenced by fractional distillation and additives.
  • A link to an external resource on synthetic lubricants is provided, suggesting it may contain relevant information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons for synthetic oil's superiority in cold starts, with some supporting the advantages of synthetic oils while others question the underlying logic. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanisms that contribute to these differences.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of viscosity and molecular behavior in different oil types. The discussion also reflects a lack of consensus on the exact processes that influence oil performance.

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Molecules of conventional oil are of varying size and those of synthetics are of uniform size, so it seems illogical that synthetic oil would be superior to conventional for cold starting only, as the smaller molecules of conventional oil should be able to remain in tighter spaces that larger molecules may not fit into thus providing immediate and superior lubrication in those spaces upon cold starting. As synthetics are considered and proven superior to conventional oil in(most) tests regarding cold start engine wear, I would like an explanation.

Could someone expert in this explain exactly why synthetics are superior in just this one area when logic would make it seem not to be the case?
 
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I assume your question relates to reciprocating engines?

'Tight spaces' you might encounter in an engine are far, far larger than the largest molecules found in synthetic oil, so there are no issues with molecules being unable to get into small spaces. Also, synthetic oils are subject to the same viscosity standards as mineral oils.

The simple reason for synthetics being better lubricants is because they have been engineered to be better. Synthetic oils can give advantages in engines by:

- Maintaining viscosity at temperature extremes. Mineral oils can get rather viscous below freezing (meaning your cold-start protection suffers) and very thin (and sometimes decomposing) at high temperatures during heavy operating conditions (right when your bearings need it most).

- Maintaining chemical composition by having fewer compounds which evaporate over time and under temperature

- Higher resistance to thermal breakdown and oxidation
 
Oil viscosity

As you seem to know what you are talking about...what process and/or ingredient(s)makes oils differ in viscosity? Is it chemical, physical or a catalystic process? Answer as detailed as possible please. Thanks.
 
I suppose synthetic engine oil is made in the same way as synthetic fuel through some kind of Fischer Tropsch process (which is a catalytic process converting CO and H2 into various hydrocarbons), with the viscosity being controlled by using blends of different resulting oils. More than that I do not know.

I presume that the viscosity of mineral oil is determined primarily by the fractional distilation point, but also by the additive packages introduced.

I'm sure there are some great websites out about this stuff. Have a look at the Mobil and Texaco sites.
 
About synthetic lubricants

I recently posted an http://kissaneasylum.typepad.com/synthetic_lubricants/2007/12/the-true-measur.html" that may answer the questions you have posed
Hope it's helpful
 
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