Decomposing Motions: Solving the T:R(4) to R(4) Question

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The discussion revolves around decomposing a specific motion T from R(4) to R(4), defined by T(x,y,z,w)=(w+3,x,y,z+1), into a composition of translations, reflections, and rotations. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and representation of this transformation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in expressing the transformation T as a composition of translations, reflections, and rotations.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the transformation in terms of (w,x,y,z) and identifies part of the transformation as a translation by (3, 0, 0, 1).
  • A participant expresses difficulty in reaching the desired form and requests hints for further progress.
  • There is a suggestion that a matrix may be necessary to change the basis of (w,x,y,z), raising the question of whether this matrix can include rotation and reflection.
  • Another participant prompts for clarification on the matrix representation and its determinant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to be exploring the problem collaboratively, but there is no consensus on the specific approach or solution to the decomposition of the transformation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the matrix representation of the transformation and the conditions under which rotations and reflections can be included.

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Can anybody help me to solve this question?

Consider the motion T:R(4) to R(4) given by T(x,y,z,w)=(w+3,x,y,z+1) T as a composition of traslations, reflections and rotations.
 
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Hi gezmisoguz! Welcome to PF! :smile:
gezmisoguz said:
Can anybody help me to solve this question?

Consider the motion T:R(4) to R(4) given by T(x,y,z,w)=(w+3,x,y,z+1) T as a composition of traslations, reflections and rotations.

Well, the obvious thing to do is to go via (w,x,y,z) :wink:
 


Thanks:)

I tried to use that but i can not reach translation rotation and reflection form of this.

Please give some hints to me:)
 
First step T(x,y,z,w)= (w, x, y, z)+ (3, 0, 0, 1). That (3, 0, 0, 1) is a translation.

Now, what is U(x,y,z,w)= (w, x, y, z)?
 
We must use a matrix to change basis of (w,x,y,z). Can this matrix contain rotation and reflection?
 
Couldn't you have thought of a better title?
 
gezmisoguz said:
We must use a matrix to change basis of (w,x,y,z). Can this matrix contain rotation and reflection?
Well, what have you done on this? Have you written it as a matrix? What is the determinant of that matrix?
 

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