Decorrelate 2 particles initially entangled

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The discussion revolves around the nature of entanglement in quantum physics, particularly focusing on whether it is possible to decorrelate two initially entangled particles. Participants explore both theoretical and experimental perspectives on entanglement, decoherence, and the conditions under which entanglement may be preserved or lost.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if there is a way to decorrelate two entangled particles from both experimental and theoretical viewpoints.
  • Another participant suggests that entanglement can be destroyed by irreversible interactions with other systems, but notes that it is possible to interact with entangled particles without causing decoherence.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how entangled photons interact with vacuum fluctuations and whether such interactions affect entanglement.
  • It is proposed that entanglement is preserved as long as the value of an entangled property is not learned, and that certain interactions, like using a wave plate or reflecting a photon, do not cause decoherence.
  • Questions are raised about the role of the environment in causing decoherence and whether interactions with virtual particles can affect entangled systems.
  • Another participant emphasizes that entanglement continues as long as no irreversible information is gained about the entangled state, even when interacting with external systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the conditions under which entanglement is preserved or lost, indicating that there is no consensus on a definitive answer. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of decoherence and the impact of external interactions on entanglement.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the idealized nature of isolated systems in quantum mechanics and the complexities introduced by interactions with the environment and virtual particles. The discussion highlights the nuanced understanding of entanglement and decoherence without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Hello,

I am studying the entanglement in quantum physics, especially the Aspect's experience where 2 photons initially correlated keep this correlation through the measure of their polarity. The Wikipedia article is only available in French, but there is an article in English written by Alain Aspect ( https://physics.aps.org/articles/v8/123 ) here that describes the experiments.

I am wondering if there is a way, from an experimental or theoretical point of view, to decorrelate 2 entangled particles ?

Is there any experience which has be performed in this goal to remove the entanglement ?

On another forum, one told me that Entanglement is destroyed by Quantum decoherence ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence ) and that any interaction with a system that has many degrees of freedom will do it.

If I have well understood, a system of 2 entagled particles can't be never considered as an isolated system, can it ? however, for the moment, we don't know if there is a distance limit for entanglement, beyond which entanglement would have disappeared, is it right ?

If there is a distance limit, then we could consider maybe that Quantum decoherence destroys the entanglement.

thanks for your clarifications
 
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There is no one hard and fast rule. Entanglement comes in many forms, in fact it comes in many counter-intuitive forms.

Generally, once an entangled particle (say entangled as to spin) interacts irreversibly with a system on its entangled basis, it will no longer be correlated (entangled) with its former partner. It is often possible to interact with such a particle in such a way that it does not cause decoherence on a particular basis.
 
@DrChinese

Thanks for your answer. From your said, it seems that answer to my question is not binary. Do you want to say that, "Generally", a entangled system interacts with its surrounding since the system totally isolated is an ideal case. From experimental point of view, I mean concretelly, 2 polarizing entangled photons will interact with vacuum fluctuations and its virtual photons, won't they ?

So, I should ask rather : in which experimental cases the entanglement is preserved , even considering system as not perfectly isolated ?
 
fab13 said:

Any case in which the value of an entangled property is NOT learned, that would be a scenario where entanglement continues. Without discussing the merits of the existence of virtual particles: virtual particles do NOT collapse entanglement.

You can also transform entangled properties without revealing an underlying value. An example of that would be using a wave plate to rotate photon polarization. Or reflecting a photon off a mirror. These interactions with an external apparatus do not cause decoherence.
 
@DrChinese

So what process or physical entities causes decoherence : the environment, i.e the surrounding ... ?

You say that, in the case of reflecting a photon off a mirror, the interactions with an external apparatus don't cuase decoherence : so you suppose that system "photon + mirror" is totally isolated ?

Why virtual particles are not interacting with an entanglement system ? for example, diffusion between entantgled particles and virtual ones can't occur ?

Sorry for my bad english, I try to be clear as can as I do.
 
fab13 said:
So what process or physical entities causes decoherence : the environment, i.e the surrounding ... ?

You say that, in the case of reflecting a photon off a mirror, the interactions with an external apparatus don't cuase decoherence : so you suppose that system "photon + mirror" is totally isolated ?

Why virtual particles are not interacting with an entanglement system ? for example, diffusion between entantgled particles and virtual ones can't occur ?

It doesn't work that way. You need not consider the mirror as isolated, nor consider an entangled particle as not interacting with virtual particles.

The issue is that no information is irreversibly gained - whether you know it or not - about particle on the entangled basis. If it is possible (in principle) to obtain that information from the setup, then entanglement will end. With photon interaction with a mirror, for example, it does not take on a specific value of polarization even though the polarization is reversed. The superposition remains, and thus entanglement continues.
 

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