Decrease in Psti and Plti values with transposed Pst and Plt (@LV) to HV?

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The discussion centers on whether the Psti and Plti values decrease when the measured Pst and Plt values at low voltage (LV) are transposed to high voltage (HV). It involves concepts related to the quality of AC power and power-line flicker, exploring the implications of voltage transformation on these parameters.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the Psti and Plti values may decrease when transposing Pst and Plt from LV to HV, but this is not explicitly confirmed.
  • One participant provides context by explaining that Pst and Plt are related to flicker emission limits in power distribution networks, indicating that flicker is a result of rapid voltage fluctuations.
  • Another participant argues that flicker is a multi-cycle effect and posits that it will not be significantly attenuated by the LV to HV transformation at the generation site, implying that the transformation does not address the underlying flicker issue.
  • A further suggestion is made that reducing flicker from static inverters would require a mechanism similar to a synchronous motor/generator with a heavy flywheel, indicating a potential approach to mitigate flicker.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of LV to HV transformation on flicker and Psti/Plti values, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion may be limited by assumptions regarding the behavior of flicker during voltage transformation and the specific characteristics of the equipment involved. The dependency on definitions of Pst and Plt and the nature of flicker effects are also relevant but not fully explored.

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Do Psti and Plti values decrease when the measured Pst and Plt (@LV) is transposed to HV?
 
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Could you provide a context to this question?
 
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I guess the subject is; The quality of AC power. Flicker emission limits for energy users on a power distribution network.
Pst; short term parameter.
Plt; long term parameter.
Power-line flicker is a visible change in brightness of a lamp due to rapid fluctuations in the voltage of the power supply. The voltage drop is generated over the source impedance of the grid by the changing load current of an equipment or facility. These fluctuations in time generate flicker.
 
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Flicker is a multi-cycle effect. I see nowhere to store several cycles of energy in the step-up transformer. I therefore assume that flicker will not be significantly attenuated by the LV to HV transformation at the generation site.

To reduce flicker from static inverters would require something equivalent to a synchronous motor/generator, with a heavy flywheel.
 

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