Definite Integration using U-Substitution

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the definite integral ∫ from 0 to 2 of (2x-3)² dx using u-substitution. The user initially attempts the substitution u = 2x - 3, leading to a transformed integral, but encounters issues due to the integrand being undefined at x = 1.5. It is clarified that the definite integral does not exist because of this undefined point within the interval. The user also questions a similar integral from a textbook that appears to have a potential undefined point but is confirmed to be valid for integration over its specified interval. The conversation concludes with the user gaining clarity on checking for undefined points in integrals.
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Hi,
I'm I on the right track here?

Homework Statement


Evaluate the definite integral, if it exists


Homework Equations


\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{dx/}{(2x-3)^2}


The Attempt at a Solution


Let u = 2x-3

du = 2dx

1/2du = dx

1/2\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

going back to our original u substitution: u = 2x - 3

= 2(0) - 3 = -3
= 2(2) - 3 = 1

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{(u^3)/3}

(1/6) x du/(u)^3

[(1/6) x du/(1)^3] - [(1/6) x du/(-3)^3]

[(1/6) x du] - [(1/6) x du/(-27)]
 
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01010011 said:
Hi,
I'm I on the right track here?
No, if I understand what you're trying to integrate. That stackrel command is not helpful. frac{}{} is what you should use for rational expressions.
01010011 said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the definite integral, if it exists


Homework Equations


\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{dx/}{(2x-3)^2}


The Attempt at a Solution


Let u = 2x-3

du = 2dx

1/2du = dx

1/2\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

going back to our original u substitution: u = 2x - 3

= 2(0) - 3 = -3
= 2(2) - 3 = 1

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{(u^3)/3}

(1/6) x du/(u)^3

[(1/6) x du/(1)^3] - [(1/6) x du/(-3)^3]

[(1/6) x du] - [(1/6) x du/(-27)]

Is this the integral?
\int_0^{2}\frac{dx}{(2x-3)^2}

It's a major problem that the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.
 
Mark44 said:
Is this the integral?
\int_0^{2}\frac{dx}{(2x-3)^2}
It's a major problem that the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.

Yes this is the correct problem I have to work out.
Ok, correct me if I am wrong but once there is a possibility of getting an undefined answer (because of the possibility of dividing by 0) then I can easily say that the difinite integral does not exist because it can't be defined if x = 1.5?

So therefore, if x is not 1.5, then the definite integral does exist. So how do I proceed with this question then? Where did I go wrong with my attempted answer?
 
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Just say that this definite integral doesn't exist because the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.
 
Mark44 said:
Just say that this definite integral doesn't exist because the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.

Ok, anytime I have a quotient like that, I'll check for this, thanks.
 
@Mark44,

On second thought, I was looking at the following question in the book:

Homework Statement


Evaluate \int\stackrel{2}{1}\frac{dx}{(3-5x)^{2}}

and they gave the answer as \frac{1}{14}

My question is, isn't this the same situation where some number would make this also undefined? Or is the question asking something different?
 
How is 1/(3-5x)^2 in any way undefined on the interval [1,2]? Just integrate it.
 
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Dick said:
How is 1/(3-5x)^2 in any way undefined on the interval [1,2]? Just integrate it.
Ok, I think I finally get it now, thanks
 

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