Definition of a Transcendental Function

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The discussion revolves around the definition of transcendental functions, particularly focusing on how they can be characterized in relation to algebraic functions. Participants explore different definitions, including those from Wikipedia and Ince's treatise on ordinary differential equations (ODEs), and consider how functions like sine and cosine can be expressed in terms of exponential functions.

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  • One participant notes a traditional view that transcendental functions are defined by their inability to be expressed as polynomials, referencing Wikipedia's definition.
  • Another participant highlights Ince's definition, suggesting that elementary transcendental functions can be derived from algebraic functions through integration and their inverses.
  • There is a suggestion that sine and cosine can be defined using Euler's formula, with specific expressions provided for both functions.
  • One participant questions the continuity of transcendental functions, arguing that not all transcendental functions can be defined by integration due to the requirement of continuity.
  • Another participant confirms the use of Euler's formula for defining sine and cosine, providing the correct expressions and suggesting verification through substitution.
  • There is curiosity about defining other transcendental functions, such as \(f(x) = x^\pi\) and \(g(x) = x^{1/x}\), in terms of integration from algebraic functions.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions of transcendental functions, particularly regarding the continuity requirement for functions defined by integration. There is no consensus on how to define all transcendental functions or on the implications of the definitions discussed.

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Some definitions and claims about transcendental functions depend on specific interpretations and may not universally apply. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the continuity of certain transcendental functions and their definitions.

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I had grown up thinking that the transcendental functions (to wit, e(x), sin(x), cos(x), etc) were (somewhat) arbitrary functions, "defined" simply by the fact that they could not be expressed as polynomials (or some such loose definition).

Indeed, from Wikipedia, we read that:
A transcendental function is a function that does not satisfy a polynomial equation whose coefficients are themselves polynomials, in contrast to an algebraic function, which does satisfy such an equation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_function
But now I'm reading from Ince's classic treatise on ODEs, and on page 23, he gets into a brief footnote about the nature of transcendental functions. Specifically, he writes:
The elementary transcendental functions are functions which can be derived from algebraic functions by integration, and the inverses of such functions.

-- Ince on ODEs
This is a rather different definition than that given by Wikipedia.

Indeed, Ince goes on to define the logarithm function as:

\ln(x) = \int_1^x t^{-1}dt
and then defines the exponential function as the inverse of the logarithm, and then tersely states that the remaining elementary transcendentals, like the sine, cosine, and their hyperbolic equivalents, can be defined in terms of the exponential.

Now, it's obvious to me how to define hyperbolic sine and cosine in terms of exponentials. That follows directly from their definition.

For the "regular" sine and cosine, he must have in mind Euler's formula, no?

e^{ix} = \cos x + i \sin x

I'm asking, just b/c I'm not sure how else to define sine and cosine in terms of an exponential..

At any rate, this was a little surprising to me, and I thought I would bring it up for discussion.

Is there a reference where I can read more about transcendental functions, and how they are defined? (i.e., defined in terms of integrating algebraic functions?)

Moreover, the imagination can easily conjure up a wide array of "transcendental" functions, to wit:

f(x) = x^\pi
g(x) = x^ {1/x}

and so on..

How might these functions be defined in terms of integration from algebraic functions?
 
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I'm not familiar with the text you're citing, but I think the key here is "elementary transcendental functions". Not all transcendental functions can be defined by integration (any function defined by integration has to be continuous, and obviously there are transcendental functions that are not continuous).

As for defining sine and cosine, it does use Euler's formula

cos(x)=\frac{e^{ix}+e^{-ix}}{2}

sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}

You can check by Euler's formula being plugged into the right hand side of each equation
 
You know Euler's identity for eix. What about for e-ix? Now solve for the two unknowns. :smile: (the unknowns being cos(x) and sin(x))
 
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I'm not familiar with the text you're citing, but I think the key here is "elementary transcendental functions". Not all transcendental functions can be defined by integration (any function defined by integration has to be continuous, and obviously there are transcendental functions that are not continuous).

As for defining sine and cosine, it does use Euler's formula

cos(x)=\frac{e^{ix}+e^{-ix}}{2}

sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}

You can check by Euler's formula being plugged into the right hand side of each equation

Almost right

\sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}
 

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