Inverse hyperbolic functions (logarithmic form)

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The discussion centers around the derivation of the inverse hyperbolic cosine function, specifically its expression in logarithmic form. Participants explore the steps involved in arriving at the formula and the implications of the "±" sign in the logarithmic expression, with a focus on the conditions under which certain solutions are valid.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present the derivation of the inverse hyperbolic cosine function, leading to the expression $$y = \ln{(x \pm \sqrt{x^2 - 1})}$$ and question how to eliminate the minus sign.
  • One participant points out that the derivation lacks clarity regarding the "±" in the logarithmic expression, suggesting that all steps should be shown.
  • Another participant provides a detailed derivation involving the equation $$x = \cosh{y} = \frac{e^y + e^{-y}}{2}$$ and subsequent steps leading to the logarithmic form.
  • Some participants propose an alternative method for deriving the inverse hyperbolic cosine function, suggesting that the initial approach may be overly complex.
  • There is a discussion about the condition that $$x > \sqrt{x^2 - 1}$$ for all $$x \geq 1$$ and why the solution $$e^y = x - \sqrt{x^2 - 1}$$ should be disregarded.
  • One participant concludes that the requirement is that $$x - \sqrt{x^2 - 1}$$ must be greater than 1, indicating a realization about the conditions for the validity of the solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the derivation process and the treatment of the "±" sign. There is no consensus on the best method to derive the inverse hyperbolic cosine function, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of certain solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the derivation involves several assumptions about the values of $$x$$ and $$y$$, and the implications of these assumptions on the solutions presented are not fully resolved.

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To express the ##\cosh^{-1}## function as a logarithm, we start by defining the variables ##x## and ##y## as follows:
$$y = \cosh^{-1}{x}$$
$$x = \cosh{y}$$
Where ##y ∈ [0, \infty)## and ##x ∈ [1, \infty)##.
Using the definition of the hyperbolic cosine function, rearranging, and multiplying through by ##e^y##, we get:
$$y = \cosh^{-1}{x} = \ln{(x \pm \sqrt{x^2 -1})}$$
How exactly do we get rid of the minus sign?
 
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MohammedRady97 said:
To express the ##\cosh^{-1}## function as a logarithm, we start by defining the variables ##x## and ##y## as follows:
$$y = \cosh^{-1}{x}$$
$$x = \cosh{y}$$
Where ##y ∈ [0, \infty)## and ##x ∈ [1, \infty)##.
Using the definition of the hyperbolic cosine function, rearranging, and multiplying through by ##e^y##, we get:
$$y = \cosh^{-1}{x} = \ln{(x \pm \sqrt{x^2 -1})}$$
How exactly do we get rid of the minus sign?
You haven't shown all the steps in your derivation of the inverse cosh function, especially how you came to have a "±" in your logarithmic expression.
 
SteamKing said:
You haven't shown all the steps in your derivation of the inverse cosh function, especially how you came to have a "±" in your logarithmic expression.

$$x = \cosh{y} = \frac{e^y + e^{-y}}{2}$$
$$e^y - 2x + e^{-y} = 0$$
$$e^{2y} - 2x e^y + 1 = 0$$
$$e^y = \frac{2x \pm \sqrt{4x^2 - 4}}{2}$$
$$e^y = x \pm \sqrt{x^2 - 1}$$
$$y = \cosh^{-1}{x} = \ln{(x \pm \sqrt{x^2 - 1})}$$
 
If ##x > \sqrt{x^2 - 1}## for all ##x \geq 1##, why should we ignore the second solution (##e^y = x - \sqrt{x^2 - 1}##)?
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