Definition of conditional probability density

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The discussion revolves around the definition and implications of conditional probability density, particularly the expression f(X = x | Y = y). Participants explore the nuances of this definition, its application to specific scenarios, and seek clarification on related concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the expression f(X = x | Y = y) and its interpretation as a conditional probability density, noting a lack of clarity in their course materials.
  • Another participant challenges the initial definition provided, stating that the correct formulation involves the relationship P(A|B) = P(A and B)/P(B).
  • A later reply acknowledges the misunderstanding and thanks the participant for the correction.
  • One participant requests assistance in proving a specific expression related to joint probability density and order statistics, clarifying that it is not a homework question.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the notation X(n), which is identified as the n-th order statistic, specifically the maximum of a set of random variables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the initial definition of conditional probability density, with one participant correcting another's interpretation. The discussion remains unresolved on the broader implications of conditional probability in specific scenarios.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of probability and the properties of random variables that are not fully explored or proven within the thread.

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Readers interested in probability theory, particularly those studying conditional probability and its applications in statistics and data analysis.

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Hello, I'm somewhat confused by the expression [itex]f(X = x | Y = y) = \frac{f(X=x)}{f(Y=y)}[/itex] (which, if I'm right, is the definition of a conditional probability density? My course seems to state it as a theorem, without proof, but then again my course is a little bit vague; although I welcome replies on this part, this is not the essential of this topic)

Anyway, the confusion is the following: let the s.v. Y be the s.v. X, then of course [itex]f(X = a | X=b)[/itex] should be zero if a is not equal to b (if the expression means what it is meant to mean), however it is equal to [itex]\frac{f(X = a)}{f(X=b)}[/itex] and there's no real reason why this should be zero.
 
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Your definition is incorrect. Let A and B be events, then P(A|B) = P(A and B)/P(B).
 
Oh chucks that was stupid of me :) thank you...
 
While we're at it, could you suggest me how to prove the following? (NOT a homework question)

[itex]f(X_1 = x_1, \dots, X_n = x_n, X_{(n)} = a) =\left\{<br /> \begin{matrix}<br /> f(X_1 = x_1, \dots, X_n = x_n) & \quad \text{if max($x_1, \dots, x_n$)$=a$}\\<br /> 0 & \quad \text{otherwise}\\<br /> \end{matrix} \right.[/itex]
 
Could you explain the notation X(n)?
 
My apologies, I should have:

it is the n-th order statistic,
i.e. [itex]X_{(n)} := \textrm{max}(X_1,\dots,X_n)[/itex]
 

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