Degeneracy of the energy level

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The discussion revolves around the concept of energy levels in quantum mechanics, specifically comparing the energy of a one-dimensional box to that of a three-dimensional box. Participants are exploring the degeneracy of energy levels and how different quantum states contribute to the same energy value.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are examining the relationship between the energy levels of one-dimensional and three-dimensional quantum boxes, questioning the assumptions made in the problem statement regarding energy equivalence. They discuss how to determine the degeneracy of the energy level and explore the combinations of quantum numbers that yield the same energy.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of energy levels and their degeneracy. Some participants have provided affirmations of reasoning, while others are clarifying the initial problem statement and its implications. Multiple interpretations of the energy levels and their corresponding quantum states are being considered.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the problem statement and its reference to energy levels, particularly the distinction between the ground state of the one-dimensional box and the three-dimensional box.

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Homework Statement
The energy for one-dimensional particle-in-a-box is En = (n^2*h^2) / (8mL^2). For a particle in a three-dimensional cubic box (Lx=Ly =Lz), if an energy level has twice the energy of the ground state, what is the degeneracy of this energy level?
Relevant Equations
En = (n^2*h^2) / (8mL^2)

En = [(nx/Lx)^2 + (ny/Ly)^2 + (nz/Lz)^2] *h^2 / (8mL^2)
Energy of the One-dimensional box:
ground state: En = (n^2*h^2) / (8mL^2), where n=1
twice the ground state: 2* En = 2 [(1^2*h^2) / (8mL^2)]

Energy of the Three-dimensional box:
En = (nx^2 + ny^2 + nz^2) *h^2 / (8mL^2) = 2 (1^2*h^2) / (8mL^2)
As stated, twice the ground state energy of one dimensional box is equal to that of the three -dimensional box. So, (nx^2 + ny^2 + nz^2) = 2, how would the degeneracy be 3? How should I continue?
Can someone help because I am confused, please? Thank you.
 
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hidemi said:
As stated, twice the ground state energy of one dimensional box is equal to that of the three -dimensional box.
The problem statement doesn't in fact say this. It's referring to the ground state of the 3-d box.

BTW, what's up with the thread title?
 
vela said:
The problem statement doesn't in fact say this. It's referring to the ground state of the 3-d box.
If the energy level is twice the energy of the ground state in three dimensional cubic box, then the energy would be
2*[(nx^2 + ny^2 + nz^2) *h^2 / (8mL^2)]
= 2*[(1^2 + 1^2 + 1^2) *h^2 / (8mL^2)]
= 6*h^2 / (8mL^2)

Is this correct?
 
Yes.
 
vela said:
Yes.
The degeneracy would be a total of three because for the energy to be 6*h^2/(8mL^2), there are three possibilities: (2,1,1,), (1,2,1) and (1,1,2). Is it the correct reasoning?
 
Yes, that’s correct.
 
vela said:
Yes, that’s correct.
Thanks a lot!
 

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