Delete Button: Why Was It Removed from PF?

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Why the delete button is recently removed from PF?
It is not showing for even 2 minutes after we write the post.
 
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I don't believe we've ever had a delete button. Are you sure you saw it?
 
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Are you kidding?
I yesterday deleted one of my post, in thread what career what have you chosen if you were younger in general discussion forum.
 
Voila, it is showing in post 3 , besides edit button.
How come, did you do something?
 
Are you sure you weren't trying to delete a thread before? You can your own post, but not a thread.
 
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No I am not able to delete a post in homework forum that would be 40 minutes old.
I guess delete button is for 2 hrs valid. Yeah I know we cannot delete a thread starting post.
 
Does Delete button works in PF lounge only, not in other forums?
Also Delete button not works in P.M's .
 
Raghav Gupta said:
Does Delete button works in PF lounge only, not in other forums?
Should be able to in most forums

Raghav Gupta said:
Also Delete button not works in P.M's .
Right
 
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In calculus and beyond homework forum it is not working. My post is 29 minutes old.
Why we can't have a option of delete button in PM's ?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
In calculus and beyond homework forum it is not working. My post is 29 minutes old.
We disabled deleting in the homework forums because some students get an answer and then delete their tracks.

Raghav Gupta said:
Why we can't have a option of delete button in PM's ?
It's not even a permission I can set, ask the developers.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
We disabled deleting in the homework forums because some students get an answer and then delete their tracks.
But the students can also edit by making only a "." Sign. What's the major difference between it?
Greg Bernhardt said:
It's not even a permission I can set, ask the developers.
How can I address them?
Who are they? Are they available here in PF?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
But the students can also edit by making only a "." Sign. What's the major difference between it?
The edit permission has a time window. The delete function does not.

Raghav Gupta said:
How can I address them?
Who are they? Are they available here in PF?

xenforo.com
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
The edit permission has a time window. The delete function does not.
What is the time limit for edit button and for delete button?
I guess it is different for gold members and non-gold members?
Here I think you are making a point for gold members?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
What is the time limit for edit button and for delete button?
200 minutes for regular members 600 for gold members. There is no time window for delete which is why it's disabled in the homework forums.
 
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But there is time limit for delete button also
I cannot see it after one day for a post I made yesterday in general discussion forum.
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
But there is time limit for delete button also
I cannot see it after one day for a post I made yesterday in general discussion forum.
I'm sorry you are right, the edit/delete time windows are the same.
 
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So can you create a button of delete in homework section?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
So can you create a button of delete in homework section?
If you want a homework post deleted, report it and staff can do it
 
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Never mind, I would edit it by only putting a full stop sign.
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
Never mind, I would edit it by only putting a full stop sign.

Then you should be aware that repeatedly editing a post in this manner is likely to get you banned. From PF Terms and Rules:

Deleting Posts:
Normally, we remove or edit posts only if they violate these Guidelines. You should consider your posts and threads as permanently available for everyone's benefit. If you want us to make an exception (e.g. a question that has not yet received any responses, or a post that contains personal identifying information), you may use the Report button on the post to request action.
 
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Drakkith said:
Then you should be aware that repeatedly editing a post in this manner is likely to get you banned. From PF Terms and Rules:

Deleting Posts:
Normally, we remove or edit posts only if they violate these Guidelines. You should consider your posts and threads as permanently available for everyone's benefit. If you want us to make an exception (e.g. a question that has not yet received any responses, or a post that contains personal identifying information), you may use the Report button on the post to request action.
Oh, sorry.
By the way I have never done that what I am saying in post 19.
I was arguing with Greg Sir so he gives us feature of that button in Homework Forums as both edit and delete button have same time window.
If some student deletes his track in Homework Forums, then I think we should report that?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
If some student deletes his track in Homework Forums, then I think we should report that?

Yes, if you see people editing their posts to remove all the content then please report the post to us mentors by clicking the "Report" button.
 
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Drakkith said:
Yes, if you see people editing their posts to remove all the content then please report the post to us mentors by clicking the "Report" button.
I think you are not getting what I am trying to say?
In simple words, why we can't have a delete button in Homework forums?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
I think you are not getting what I am trying to say?
In simple words, why we can't have a delete button in Homework forums?

Greg already explained it. Too many people were using it to delete their posts. Even though the time windows for the Edit and Delete buttons are the same, people are more likely to delete their post rather than edit it, so it does cut down on some of this behavior.
 
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Drakkith said:
Greg already explained it. Too many people were using it to delete their posts. Even though the time windows for the Edit and Delete buttons are the same, people are more likely to delete their post rather than edit it, so it does cut down on some of this behavior.
So we can report that, even if we have a delete button.
Also why we have a delete button in other forums then?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
So we can report that, even if we have a delete button.

I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying here.

Raghav Gupta said:
Also why we have a delete button in other forums then?

It's to allow members to delete their posts in case of mistakes, misunderstandings, etc. Deletion of posts in the non-homework forums is simply not an issue like it is in the homework forums.
 
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Drakkith said:
I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying here.
Means if some guy deletes his post in homework section.
The homework helper there can report to you staff people on that guy's rude behaviour.
Drakkith said:
It's to allow members to delete their posts in case of mistakes, misunderstandings, etc. Deletion of posts in the non-homework forums is simply not an issue like it is in the homework forums.
But in general physics section, chemistry and math section also some type of questions are asked.
Science advisors etc. help there.
So there also the delete button should not be there?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
Means if some guy deletes his post in homework section.
The homework helper there can report to you staff people on that guy's rude behaviour.

The deletion of homework question posts was enough of a problem to warrant the removal the delete button. That's really all there is too it.

Raghav Gupta said:
But in general physics section, chemistry and math section also some type of questions are asked.
Science advisors etc. help there.
So there also the delete button should not be there?

As I said, it's not an issue in the other forums. People simply don't delete their posts like they do in the homework forums, so we can leave the delete button there.
 
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Okay, that was an enough argument for me.
Thanks. By the way you have helped me a lot in general physics section.
I think my debate doing skills strengthened by this.
 
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Uh, thanks? I can't say I've ever been told I've helped someone with their debate skills before. :biggrin:
 
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