If time is removed from the equation Q=VxIxt, will it still be valid

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The discussion revolves around the validity of the equation Q=VxIxt when time is removed, specifically in the context of estimating the heat transfer coefficient of a nichrome wire heated by direct current. The participants explore the implications of omitting time from the equation and its relevance to energy calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether removing time from the equation Q=VxIxt still allows it to represent energy, expressing a need for simplification in their calculations.
  • Another participant clarifies that VI represents power and VIt represents energy, prompting a question about which form is desired.
  • A repeated inquiry about the dimensional consistency of the equation is raised, with a participant noting that Q could be interpreted as electric charge (Q = It) rather than energy, leading to confusion regarding the role of voltage (V).
  • There is a suggestion that Q might refer to heat instead of electric charge, indicating a possible misunderstanding of the terms used in the equation.
  • A later reply acknowledges the previous confusion, indicating a realization about the context of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the equation and its components, particularly regarding the role of time and the meaning of Q. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations present.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of Q and its relation to energy or charge, as well as the implications of removing time from the equation. The dimensional analysis of the equation is also not fully explored.

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if time is removed from the equation Q=VxIxt, will it still be valid to be an equation of energy?
i need that equation to estimate the heat transfer coefficient of a nichrome wire heated using direct current,but putting time to the equation makes everything complicated..

(i'd read someone's post here that use the same equation but does not put time.. too bad i can't find that post again..)
 
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VI = power

VIt = energy

Which one do you want?
 


totoykabute said:
if time is removed from the equation Q=VxIxt, will it still be valid to be an equation of energy?
i need that equation to estimate the heat transfer coefficient of a nichrome wire heated using direct current,but putting time to the equation makes everything complicated..

(i'd read someone's post here that use the same equation but does not put time.. too bad i can't find that post again..)

Did you check on the dimensions of that 'equation'?

afaik, Q = It
where does V come into it?
 


sophiecentaur said:
Did you check on the dimensions of that 'equation'?

afaik, Q = It
where does V come into it?

It could be that Q means "heat" here, rather than electric charge. That is sort of what I assumed from the context.
 


OH yes. Makes sense. (I have just removed my blinkers!)
 

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