Density of Asteroids, Escape Velcoity and Jumping

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum radius of an asteroid from which one can escape by jumping. The context involves concepts of density, escape velocity, and gravitational effects on a jump.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between escape velocity and the radius of an asteroid, questioning the use of density and volume in calculations. There are attempts to derive formulas and clarify the assumptions regarding the symmetry and density of the asteroids.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting the use of initial jump speed to find escape velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulas and assumptions, with some participants noting errors in previous calculations.

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There are discussions about the assumptions of spherical symmetry and uniform density of the asteroids, as well as the need for correct volume calculations in the context of gravitational physics.

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[SOLVED] Density of Asteroids, Escape Velcoity and Jumping

Homework Statement



The question wants to know the maximum radius of an asteroid that you can escape from by simply jumpibng off.

The Variables given:
densities = 2500 kg/m cubed
radii = 470km downwards
height of jump = 1m

Homework Equations



v(Escape) = sqrt(GM/r)
m = d/r cubed
V squared = U squared + 2as (for initial jump speed)

The Attempt at a Solution


using a = 9.8 and s = 1, I calculated the initial jump speed is 4.43
rearranging the equation for EScape Velocity:
v(escape) = sqrt[(G(d/r cubed))/r]
v sqyared = (G(d/r cubed))/r
v squared = GD/r squared
r squared = Gd/v sqyared
r = sqrt [GD/v squared]

but this isn't giving me the right answer?
 
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TFM said:
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m = d/r cubed

This isn't right. mass is density * volume. and the volume of a sphere is?
 
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HI TFM,

It's given that you can jump 1 m on earth. Using that, find the speed you can generate at the start of the jump. Then apply that speed for v_escape to find r. All other data are given.
 
The question assumes the asteroids are speherically symmetrical - which is why I should use the volume of a sphere, 4/3 Pi r cubed.

i.e:

(escape) = sqrt[(G(d/(4/3) pi r cubed))/r]

TFM
 
TFM said:
The question assumes the asteroids are speherically symmetrical - which is why I should use the volume of a sphere, 4/3 Pi r cubed.

i.e:

(escape) = sqrt[(G(d/(4/3) pi r cubed))/r]

TFM

Yes, spherically symmetrical and of uniform density. However, the following formula you've written is not correct.

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2. Homework Equations

v(Escape) = sqrt(GM/r)

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I've just checked -its sqrt[(2GM)/r]

this all gives:

R squared = (3*V escape squared)/(8*G*density*pi)

TFM
 
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I have now got the (right) answer of 3.7km (using a 10^-3 conversion factor):smile:

Thanks all,

TFM
 

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