Derivation of equation (9.117) on Schutz's textbook

  • Thread starter Thread starter MathematicalPhysicist
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Derivation Textbook
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the derivation of equation (9.117) from Schutz's second edition textbook, specifically on page 238. The equation is expressed as $$\bar{h}^{net}_{xx}=\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}+\delta \bar{h}^{TT}_{xx}=(A-2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin \phi)\cos [\Omega (z-t)-\psi]$$, where $$\tan \psi = \frac{2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R}{A} \cos \phi$$. Participants explore the algebraic manipulation required to validate this equation and discuss the relationships between the parameters involved, particularly focusing on the amplitudes A and B, where $$B=2\pi\sigma m\Omega\ell_{0}R$$. The conversation highlights the need for clarity on the definitions and relationships of these variables.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of wave equations and their derivations
  • Familiarity with Schutz's second edition textbook on general relativity
  • Knowledge of trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation
  • Basic concepts of oscillation and amplitude in physics
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of wave equations in Schutz's textbook, particularly sections related to equations (9.107) and (9.117)
  • Learn about the physical significance of parameters A and B in wave mechanics
  • Explore the application of trigonometric identities in simplifying complex equations
  • Investigate the implications of the relationship $$R=\mathcal{O}(h_{xx}^{TT}\ell_0)$$ in wave propagation
USEFUL FOR

Students and researchers in theoretical physics, particularly those focusing on general relativity and wave mechanics, will benefit from this discussion. It is also relevant for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of Schutz's work and the mathematical techniques used in deriving complex equations.

MathematicalPhysicist
Science Advisor
Gold Member
Messages
4,662
Reaction score
372
On page 238 of his second edition of Schutz's he writes the following:
If we now add this to the incident wave, Eq. (9.107), we get the net result, to first order in ##R##,
$$(9.117)\bar{h}^{net}_{xx}=\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}+\delta \bar{h}^{TT}_{xx}=(A-2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin \phi)\cos [\Omega (z-t)-\psi]$$
where $$(9.118) \tan \psi = \frac{2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R}{A} \cos \phi$$
Where Eq. (9.107) is: $$\bar{h}^{TT}_{xx}=A\cos (\Omega (z-t)) , \bar{h}_{yy}^{TT}=-\bar{h}^{TT}_{xx}$$
and ##\delta \bar{h}^{TT}_{xx}=2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin [\Omega (z-t)-\phi]##.

Here's what I tried:
$$A\tan \psi / ( 2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R )= \cos \phi $$
$$A\cos(\Omega (z-t))+2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin ((\Omega (z-t)-\phi)=A\cos (\Omega (z-t))+2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R [\sin (\Omega (z-t))\cos \phi -\cos (\Omega (z-t))\sin \phi ] =$$
$$ (A-2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin \phi )\cos (\Omega (z-t)) + 2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin (\Omega (z-t)) \cos \phi = \frac{(A-2\pi \sigma m \Omega \ell_0 R \sin \phi )\cos (\Omega (z-t))\cos \psi + A \sin (\Omega (z-t)) \sin \psi}{\cos \psi}$$

How to proceed to get the above identity in equation (9.117), I don't see it.
Can you help me?

Thanks in advance!
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
For simplifying terms, following algebra is applied:
let:$$A=A$$ $$B=2\pi\sigma m\Omega\ell_{0}R$$and$$\Omega\left(z-t\right)=\tau$$
Equations you posted can be wirtten as:
$$\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}=A \cos\tau$$
$$\delta\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}=B \sin \left(\tau-\phi\right)$$
Then:
$$\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}+\delta\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}=A \cos\tau+B \sin \left(\tau-\phi\right)$$
$$=A \cos\tau+B\cos\phi\sin \tau-B\sin\phi\cos\tau$$
$$=\left(A-B\sin\phi\right) \cos\tau+B\cos\phi\sin \tau...(Eq1)$$
Eqs.(9.117) and Eqs.(9.118) are:
$$\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}+\delta\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}=\left(A-B\sin\phi\right)\cos\left(\tau-\psi\right)...(Eq2)$$
$$\tan\psi=\frac{B\cos\phi}{A}...(Eq3)$$
Expand Eq2 and combining Eq3:
$$\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}+\delta\bar{h}_{xx}^{TT}=\left(A-B\sin\phi\right)\cdot\left(\frac{A}{r}\cdot\cos\tau+\frac{B\cos\phi}{r}\cdot\sin\tau\right)...(Eq4)$$
where:$$r=\left(A^{2}+\left(B\cos\phi\right)^{2}\right)^{\frac{1}{2}}$$
Comparing Eq1&Eq4, coefficients of term $\cos\tau$ and $\sin\tau$ must be balanced, if the book is right or some relationship between A and B exsit, following equation must be valid:
$$\left(A-B\sin\phi\right)=\left(A-B\sin\phi\right)\cdot\frac{A}{r}...Cond.(1)$$
$$B\cos\phi=\left(A-B\sin\phi\right)\cdot\frac{B\cos\phi}{r}...Cond.(2)$$
To my knowledge, the above equations are weird, on the other hand, can you tell more details of A and B?
 
@David_Zheng , well, more details that I see that are relevant are ##R=\mathcal{O}(h_{xx}^{TT}\ell_0)##, ##\sigma## is proportional to ##\exp(-\epsilon r)##.
##A## is the amplitude where two masses oscillate , ##A## is the amplitude that each mass in the ##\sigma## masses moves, one-half of the the total stretching of the spring ##R##.

Do you want me to put on the screen scans of this part of the book?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K