Derivation of moment of inertia of a solid sphere

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the moment of inertia for a solid sphere, specifically questioning the use of shells in the calculation. The original poster is attempting to derive the formula I = 2/5 mR^2 and is exploring why their approach using shells leads to a different result.

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  • The original poster attempts to use the method of shells to derive the moment of inertia, expressing their setup and integral. They question where their derivation goes wrong, particularly in relation to the mass distribution in shells.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the original poster's reasoning, questioning the assumptions made about the mass distribution in thin shells. Some guidance has been offered regarding the moment of inertia of a single thin shell, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the original poster's approach.

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The discussion highlights a specific misunderstanding regarding the application of the moment of inertia formula for thin shells, as well as the implications of mass distribution in the context of spherical geometry.

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Homework Statement


I need to know why my derivation does not work. I am attempting to derive I=2/5 mR^2

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I have seen people derive it using disks but my question is why do the shells not work? Where in my set up did I go wrong? Thanks

The Attempt at a Solution


I am attempting to use shells to do this.
integral(r^2dm)=I
Ro=p=m/v so pdv=dm
dv=4(pi)r^2dr
moment of inertia (I) =definite integral from r=0 to r=R (4p(pi)r^4dr)

When I solve this integral it becomes (3/5)mR^2 and not (2/5) mR^2
 
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Hello, and welcome to PF!

joe5185 said:
I am attempting to use shells to do this.
integral(r^2dm)=I
What is the moment of inertia of a single thin shell of mass dm and radius r? (Hint: It is not r2dm)
 
TSny said:
Hello, and welcome to PF!What is the moment of inertia of a single thin shell of mass dm and radius r? (Hint: It is not r2dm)
Well in general moment of inertia R^2dm and I am using the thin shells to eventually make up the entire volume so I can sub out for dm in terms of r
 
If all the mass in the element dm is at the same distance r from the axis of rotation, then the moment of inertia about that axis will be r2 dm. For a spherical shell, is all of the mass in the shell at the same distance from the axis?
 
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oh I see. thank you
 

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