Derivative at infinity on the Riemann sphere

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The discussion centers on the concept of derivatives at infinity on the Riemann sphere, particularly in the context of quadratic polynomials and their fixed points. Participants explore the implications of conjugating derivatives using Mobius transformations and the specific case of the polynomial P(z) = z².

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  • One participant notes that the derivative at infinity for the polynomial P(z) = z² is derived using the Mobius map, leading to a result of P'(∞) = 0.
  • Another participant proposes a method to find the derivative at a fixed point using Mobius transformations, suggesting that the derivative of φPφ⁻¹ at a transformed point can yield the derivative of P at the original fixed point.
  • A correction is made regarding the fixed points of P, indicating that the initial assumption may have been incorrect unless c=0.
  • References to external sources, such as Beardon's work and Wikipedia, are provided to support the discussion and clarify definitions related to periodic points of complex quadratic mappings.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the conjugation of the derivative and the identification of fixed points, indicating that multiple views and interpretations exist without a clear consensus.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of fixed points and the application of Mobius transformations, which may not be universally agreed upon. The implications of these assumptions on the results are not fully resolved.

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I am reading a recent (2003) paper, "Fatou and Julia Sets of Quadratic Polynomials" by Jerelyn T. Watanabe. A superattracting fixed point is a fixed point where the derivative is zero. The polynomial P(z) = z2 has fixed points P(0) = 0 and P(∞) = ∞ (note we are working in \hat{\mathbb{C}} = \mathbb{C}\cup\infty). The derivative at 0 is P'(0) = 0. The author then writes "the derivative of P at ∞ is given by 1/P'(1/ζ) = ζ/2. Evaluating at ζ = 0 gives P'(∞) = 0."

What's going on here? We seem to have conjugated P' by the Mobius map \zeta\mapsto1/\zeta. Why? I would think, if anything, we'd have to conjugate P itself, in order to find properties of P...
 
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Oh, I think I've gotten somewhere.

Suppose P(a) = a. Let φ be a Mobius map. With b = φ(a), the derivative of φPφ-1 at b is φ'(P(φ-1(b))) P'(φ-1(b)) / φ'(φ-1(b)) = φ'(P(a)) P'(a) / φ'(a) = φ'(a) P'(a) / φ'(a) = P'(a).

So we can get P' at a fixed point a by evaluating the derivative of φPφ-1 at b = φ(a). Let P(z) = z2 + c with fixed point ∞, and φ(z) = 1/z = φ-1(z) so that φ(∞) = 0. Then φPφ(z) = φP(1/z) = φ(1/z2 + c) = z2/(cz2+1), whose derivative is 2z/(cz2+1)2, which evaluates to 0 at z =0. So P'(∞) = 0, apparently.

I don't quite understand this. And this still doesn't explain the conjugation of P' by 1/z in the author's example. Can somebody shed some light?
 
Aside: you have the fixed points of P wrong, unless you were assuming c=0.
 
Hurkyl: oops, thanks! I'll fix that.
 

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