Derivative Calculation: f'(x) & Increase/Decrease

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function $$f(x)=4x^3-x^4$$ and determining the intervals where the function increases and decreases. It involves mathematical reasoning and procedural steps related to calculus concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the function and its derivative, $$f^{\prime}(x)=4x^2(3-x)$$, and seeks guidance on the next steps.
  • Another participant clarifies that the focus should be on where $$f(x)$$ increases and decreases, not where $$f'(x)$$ does, and outlines a procedure involving finding where the derivative changes sign.
  • A participant acknowledges the need to use $$f^{\prime}(x)$$ to find the intervals of increase and decrease but expresses confusion about the calculation process.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the derivative calculation and encourages plugging in values to analyze the derivative further.
  • A later reply reiterates the importance of finding the critical numbers, noting that roots of even multiplicity may not indicate a sign change of the derivative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to use the derivative to determine intervals of increase and decrease. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the specific calculations and procedures to follow, with some participants expressing confusion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the identification of critical points and the implications of even multiplicity roots on the sign change of the derivative.

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Have a function
$$f(x)=4x^3-x^4$$

Found the x values are X -1, 0, 1, 2, 3 , 4,
f(Y) -5, 0, 3, 16, 27, 0

i Need to find $$f^{\prime}(x)$$ and find where it incteases and decreases??$$f`(x)= 3*4x^2-4x^3=4x^2(3-x)$$

what to Next?
 
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Typically, you use $f'(x)$ to find out where $f(x)$ increases and decreases, not where $f'(x)$ increases or decreases (they're very different things).

What I would do is find out where your derivative changes sign (candidates are the roots of the derivative). I map out the procedure like this:

1. Find out where the derivative is zero. Suppose this happens at $x=-1, 4, 9$.
2. Divide up the whole real line into pieces, depending on where the derivative is zero. In the example, we'd have four pieces: $(-\infty,-1), (-1, 4), (4, 9),$ and $(9,\infty)$.
3. For each interval generated in Step 2, sample the derivative once inside the interval. You only need to do this once, assuming you found your roots correctly. So, let's say we do $f'(-1), f'(0), f'(5),$ and $f'(10)$.
4. For each interval you sampled where the derivative is positive, you have an increasing function. For each interval you sampled where the derivative is negative, you have a decreasing function.

Does that make sense?
 
You are right that i have to use $$f^{\prime}(x)$$ to find out where $$f$$ increases and decreases. I still don't understand how to calculate this, to solve the problem.
 
You computed $f'(x)$ correctly! Go ahead and plug numbers into that derivative.
 
headbang said:
You are right that i have to use $$f^{\prime}(x)$$ to find out where $$f$$ increases and decreases. I still don't understand how to calculate this, to solve the problem.

Follow step 1 of the procedure given by Ackbach above...find the critical numbers, that is, the roots of the derivative. These are the places at which the derivative may change sign. Note that roots of even multiplicity will not be such places. What do you conclude so far?
 

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