Derivative of a Complex Function

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the complex function ##f(z)=\frac{1.5z+3i}{7.5iz-15}##. Participants express confusion regarding the result that the derivative is zero, despite the presence of variables in the function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants share their attempts at calculating the derivative using standard formulas and express confusion over the implications of obtaining a zero derivative. Questions arise about the validity of this result given the presence of variables.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights suggesting that the function may be constant for all values of ##z##, prompting further inquiry into this assertion. Others seek clarification and elaboration on the reasoning behind the zero derivative.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of partial derivatives and their implications, as well as a suggestion to manipulate the function by multiplying the numerator, indicating ongoing exploration of the function's behavior.

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Homework Statement


Find the derivative of ##f(z)=\frac{1.5z+3i}{7.5iz-15}##

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The Attempt at a Solution


I had no difficulty using the standard derivative formulas to find the derivative of this function, but the actual result, that the derivative is zero, is confusing. For real functions, the derivative is usually only zero if your function is just a number with no variables. However, here we obviously have variables in the form of ##x## & ##y## in the two z's, but somehow the derivative is still zero.

Taking the partial derivatives gives me:
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-11.25y-22.5-22.5iy}{-56.25x^2-112.5ixy+56.25y^2-225i+225}##

##\frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{33.75ix+11.25x-67.5}{-56.25x^2-112.5ixy+56.25y^2-225i+225}##

If my math is correct, does this not show that the derivative changes and isn't zero?

What am I missing?
 
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Drakkith said:

Homework Statement


Find the derivative of ##f(z)=\frac{1.5z+3i}{7.5iz-15}##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I had no difficulty using the standard derivative formulas to find the derivative of this function, but the actual result, that the derivative is zero, is confusing. For real functions, the derivative is usually only zero if your function is just a number with no variables. However, here we obviously have variables in the form of ##x## & ##y## in the two z's, but somehow the derivative is still zero.

Taking the partial derivatives gives me:
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-11.25y-22.5-22.5iy}{-56.25x^2-112.5ixy+56.25y^2-225i+225}##

##\frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{33.75ix+11.25x-67.5}{-56.25x^2-112.5ixy+56.25y^2-225i+225}##

If my math is correct, does this not show that the derivative changes and isn't zero?

What am I missing?

You are missing the fact that ##f(z)## is equal to a complex constant ##c## for all ##z = x+iy##. If you look a bit harder it becomes clear by inspection.
 
Ray Vickson said:
You are missing the fact that ##f(z)## is equal to a complex constant ##c## for all ##z = x+iy##. If you look a bit harder it becomes clear by inspection.

Hi Ray. Would you mind elaborating? I'm afraid I don't see anything at the moment.
 
Drakkith said:
Hi Ray. Would you mind elaborating? I'm afraid I don't see anything at the moment.
What happens if you multiply the nominator by ##5i\,##? Thus you can write ##f(z)=\dfrac{1}{5i} \cdot \dfrac{\ldots}{\ldots}##.
 
fresh_42 said:
What happens if you multiply the nominator by ##5i\,##? Thus you can write ##f(z)=\dfrac{1}{5i} \cdot \dfrac{\ldots}{\ldots}##.

I see. Thanks guys.
 

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