Derivative of an inverse function

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The discussion centers on the derivative of an inverse function, specifically for the function f(x) = cosh^2(x) + sinh(2x). The user attempts to find the inverse function g(y) and its derivative g'(y) but encounters confusion regarding the relationship between x and y in the context of inverse functions. It is clarified that g'(y) should be expressed in terms of the correct variable, emphasizing that g'(y) = 1/f'(x) where y = f(x). The integration approach used by the user is deemed incorrect, as it does not yield the expected inverse function. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly relating the variables when dealing with inverse functions.
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f(x) = cosh^2(x)+sinh(2x) = y
f'(x) = sinh(2x)+2cosh(2x) = 3e^(2x) + e^(-x) = y'

Let g(y) be the inverse of f(x):
g'(y) = 1 / f'(x) = 1 / [3e^(2y) + e^(-2y)] = e^(2y) / [4e^(2y) + 1]

Integrating gives: [ 3^(1/2)/3 ]*arctan[ 3^(1/2) * e^(2y) ] + C

Now when I plotted this function it looked in no way like the inverse of f(x), so where have I gone wrong?

Thank you :smile:
 
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JanClaesen said:
Let g(y) be the inverse of f(x):
g'(y) = 1 / f'(x) = 1 / [3e^(2y) + e^(-2y)] = e^(2y) / [4e^(2y) + 1]


you just replaced y by x. What you have to do is use the relation y = g(x), where g is the inverse of f. Given your definition of f it might be hard to find an expression for this inverse:smile:
 
Hello :smile:
I don't understand why g(y) isn't the inverse?
f: x -> y and g: y -> x
I still don't understand why integrating 1/f'(g(y)) doesn't yield me g(y) :smile:
 
JanClaesen said:
Let g(y) be the inverse of f(x):
g'(y) = 1 / f'(x) = 1 / [3e^(2y) + e^(-2y)] = e^(2y) / [4e^(2y) + 1]
This is incorrect. Although you write g'(y)=1/f'(x), you are just using g'(y)=1/f'(y).

As said above, you should be using g'(y)=1/f'(x) where x and y are such that y=f(x)! The relation between x and y is crucial.
 
JanClaesen said:
g'(y) = 1 / f'(x) = 1 / [3e^(2y) + e^(-2y)] = e^(2y) / [4e^(2y) + 1]

To clarify what was said before, how is f'(x), a function of x, expressed completely in terms of y?

You should have g'(y) = 1/[3e^(2x) + e^(-2x)] = e^(2x)/(4e^(2x) + 1)

In which case your integration tricks won't work.
 
JanClaesen said:
Hello :smile:
I don't understand why g(y) isn't the inverse?
f: x -> y and g: y -> x
I still don't understand why integrating 1/f'(g(y)) doesn't yield me g(y) :smile:

That would be true. However, you seem to have tried to integrate 1/f'(y) to recover g and that does not work.
 

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