Derivatives and Inverse Trigonometry

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This discussion focuses on the application of inverse trigonometric derivative identities and the correct use of the chain rule in calculus problems. The participants analyze derivatives of functions involving inverse trigonometric functions and products, specifically addressing questions related to derivatives of functions like $$y = \sin^{-1}(\cos(\theta)) + \cos^{-1}(\sin(\theta))$$ and $$f(x) = \tan(2x) + 2x\sec^2(2x)$$. Key corrections include the proper application of the chain rule and the simplification of derivatives, leading to definitive conclusions about the correctness of the calculations presented.

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Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions about this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

Question:
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For 1a, using inverse trigonometric derivative identities should work, right?

I got y' = 1/sinØ + 1/cosØ and multiplied by the common denominator to get.

y' = (cosØ+sinØ)/sinØcosØ

As for 1b, I used the product rule and simplified to get:

y' = 3^x * ln3*ln(3x) + (3^x)/x + 3/x


Also, for 2, I'm a bit confused. I took the derivative and substituted x = $\pi$/2 to get 0 + $\pi$ = $\pi$

So y'($\pi$/2) = $\pi$ Does that look right?

As for the second derivative, I got
y''=16+ 4$\pi$/3

Thanks in advance.
 
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For 1a, you didn't use the chain rule correctly. You did f'(g(x)), but didn't multiply by g'(x).
The next two are correct.
But [math] y''(\frac{\pi}{6}) [/math] is wrong. How did you do it? Can you show steps?
 
jacobi said:
For 1a, you didn't use the chain rule correctly. You did f'(g(x)), but didn't multiply by g'(x).
The next two are correct.
But [math] y''(\frac{\pi}{6}) [/math] is wrong. How did you do it? Can you show steps?
Oh, so there should be a coso and sino in the nominator, right?

In that case, after simplifying, I obtained 1-1=0. Is that correct?

Also, for the last part of question 2, I don't see how I could have gotten it wrong unless f''(x) is wrong. I got f''(x) = 2sec^2(2x) + 2sec^2(2x) + 8xsec(2x)cos(2x)
 
Yes, there should be a cos and sin in the numerator. Your second derivative is wrong, can you show your steps?

The first derivative is $$f'(x) = \tan\left({2x}\right) +2x\sec^2\left({2x}\right) $$
 
After simplifying, you should obtain a constant...but not zero. Could you show all your steps for the inverse trig derivative?
 
Rido12 said:
Yes, there should be a cos and sin in the numerator. Your second derivative is wrong, can you show your steps?

The first derivative is $$f'(x) = \tan\left({2x}\right) +2x\sec^2\left({2x}\right) $$

I did it again and got (48+16√3*$\pi$)/3

I simply took the derivative of tan(2x)+2xsec^2 (2x) and computed:

f''(x) = 2sec^2(2x) + 2sec^2(2x) + 8xsec^2(2x)tan(2x)

Thus,

f''(x) = 2sec^2($\pi$/3) + 2sec^2($\pi$/3) + 4$\pi$/3 * sec^2($\pi$/3)tan($\pi$/3)
 
Yup, this answer right now is correct. (Star)
 
jacobi said:
After simplifying, you should obtain a constant...but not zero. Could you show all your steps for the inverse trig derivative?

Because:

y = sin^-1(cos$\theta$) + cos^-1(sin$\theta$)

Thus,

y' = 1/(√1-cos^2($\theta$)) * (sin$\theta$) - 1/ (√1-sin^2($\theta$)) * cos$\theta$

Thus, knowing that sin^2($\theta$) + cos^2($\theta$) = 1, we know that:

y' = cos($\theta$)/cos($\theta$) - sin($\theta$)/sin($\theta$)

y' = 0.

Where did I go wrong?
 
Your chain rule for $$\sin^{-1}\left({\cos\left({x}\right)}\right)$$ is incorrect. What is the derivative of $\cos\left({x}\right)$?
 
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Rido12 said:
Your chain rule for $$\sin^{-1}\left({\cos\left({x}\right)}\right)$$ is incorrect. What is the derivative of $\cos\left({x}\right)$?

It should be -sinx.

So is the answer -1-1= -2?
 
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That appears to be correct. Glad you found your mistake :D
 

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