Derive Electric Potential Energy

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The discussion revolves around deriving the electric potential energy of a point charge within a uniformly charged sphere. The original poster presents a specific equation for potential energy that varies with distance from the center of the sphere and expresses confusion about the integration process involved in deriving this equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to integrate the electric field to find potential energy but encounters discrepancies in the expected results. Some participants question the choice of initial and final points for integration, suggesting that the integration should start from infinity rather than from the sphere's radius.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications regarding the integration limits and the implications of these choices on the potential energy calculation. There is a recognition of the need to account for the potential energy at the sphere's surface when integrating from infinity.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of electric fields both inside and outside the charged sphere, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the electric field's behavior in different regions.

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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known
For a a uniformly charged sphere of radius R with total charge Q, show that the potential energy of a point charge q' varies with r

U(r) = Qq'/4\pi\epsilonR * (3/2 - r2/2R2 if r < R

Homework Equations


\DeltaU = - \intE(r)q'dr cos\theta


The Attempt at a Solution


I used that the electric field of q' when r < R is Qr/4\pi\epsilonR3. I tried to integrate from initial to final for r, but then I only get 1/2 as opposed to 3. I have no idea where the 3 comes from.

Can someone help please?
 
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What did you take as the initial and final r's? You have to integrate from infinity to r because potential energies are always stated with the potential at infinity as 0. (Of course, the electric field outside the sphere is not E=kQr/R^3, which adds another complication.)
 
Ohh, I took the initial r to be R. Does that mean I have to add back the potential energy at R from infinity in order to get the expression for the potential energy at r when r < R?
 
Yes.
 
Thank you!
 

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