Potential and Electric Field near a Charged CD Disk

In summary, the study of potential and electric field near a charged CD disk reveals the distribution of electric charge on the disk's surface and how it influences the electric field in the surrounding space. The disk's geometry leads to a non-uniform electric field, with the potential varying based on the distance from the disk. The analysis demonstrates that the electric field strength decreases with distance, and the potential approaches a constant value far from the disk, highlighting the relationship between charge distribution, potential, and electric field in electrostatics.
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Homework Statement
A CD disk of radius ( R = 1 cm) is sprayed with a charged paint so that the charge varies continually with radial distance r from the center in the following manner: σ = - (3.5 C/m)r / R.
a) Find the potential at a point z = 5 cm above the center.
b) Find the strength of the electric field at this location.
Relevant Equations
V = kq/r
Hi! I am a very lost physics student here.

I got a) but I have no idea how.
The formula I used was from an online source and it was:
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I think I need a contextual explanation of this formula before I attempt b).

My understanding of electric potential is that it is NOT potential energy, but rather energy per unit charge. I also know that the general formula for V is V = (kq) / r. Based on the question, it seems like the disk does not have a uniform charge distribution ("varies continually"). I also know that the distance between the charge and the disk (not the center) is expressed by sqrt( R^2 + z^2). That's about how far I understand this question.

Help would be much appreciated!
 
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cherry said:
sqrt( R^2 + z^2)
That's the distance from the given point to a point at the edge of the disc. For a point at radius r on the disc… well I'm sure you can figure that out.
The first step in the formula you found is elementary integration. You consider a small annulus of the disc between radii r and r+dr. Write down the charge on that annulus and divide it by the distance to the point to find the potential due to that annulus. Then integrate, i.e. add those up for all such annuli.

If you do not understand that then you need to take a refresher on integration.
 
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The general understanding is that the electrostatic potential is a volume, that is triple, integral of the charge density ##\rho(\vec{x})##, and the general formula is obtained by solving Poisson's equation for electrostatics and it is given by
$$V(\vec{x})=\int\frac{\rho (\vec{x'})}{|\vec{x}-\vec{x'}|}d^3\vec{x'}$$
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson's_equation

Now of course I understand that this bizarre formula might baffle you. It can be simplified to a double or single integral depending if the charge density ##\rho(x)## is a function of three or two or one variables, each variable corresponding to a spatial dimension. Also you might ask what are ##\vec{x}## and ##\vec{x'}##. Those are the position vectors in the field and source space respectively.

In your case this integral is simplified to a double integral. It is (in this case always, not in the general 3D case) ##|\vec{x}|=z## and ##|\vec{x'}|=r## where r the distance from the center of the disk. You will also need that also in our case (not in the general 3D case) it is ##d^3\vec{x'}=rdrd\phi## that is the surface element in polar coordinates. Also that for two vectors ##a,b## it is $$|\vec{a}-\vec{b}|=\sqrt{|\vec{a}|^2+|\vec{b}|^2-2|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|\cos(\vec{a},\vec{b})}$$ where ##(\vec{a},\vec{b})## is the angle between vectors a, b.

I know that this whole post of mine might baffle you right in the middle of your brain. If that's the case just ignore it and follow @haruspex post.
 

FAQ: Potential and Electric Field near a Charged CD Disk

What is the electric potential at a point on the axis of a uniformly charged CD disk?

The electric potential at a point on the axis of a uniformly charged CD disk can be found by integrating the contributions from all infinitesimal charge elements on the disk. The potential at a distance \(z\) from the center of the disk is given by \( V(z) = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_0} \left( \sqrt{R^2 + z^2} - |z| \right) \), where \(\sigma\) is the surface charge density, \(R\) is the radius of the disk, and \(\epsilon_0\) is the permittivity of free space.

How do you calculate the electric field at a point on the axis of a charged CD disk?

The electric field at a point on the axis of a uniformly charged CD disk is derived from the gradient of the electric potential. For a point at distance \(z\) from the center, the electric field component along the axis is \( E_z = \frac{\sigma z}{2\epsilon_0} \left( \frac{1}{|z|} - \frac{1}{\sqrt{R^2 + z^2}} \right) \). This field points away from the disk if the charge is positive and towards the disk if the charge is negative.

What is the significance of the symmetry in the problem of a charged CD disk?

The symmetry of the charged CD disk simplifies the problem significantly. Due to the circular symmetry, the electric field and potential only depend on the distance from the center of the disk along the axis perpendicular to the disk. This reduces a potentially complex three-dimensional problem to a one-dimensional problem along the axis.

How does the electric field behave far away from the charged CD disk?

Far away from the charged CD disk (at distances much greater than the radius \(R\)), the disk can be approximated as a point charge \(Q\). The electric field at a distance \(z\) from the center along the axis behaves like that of a point charge, \( E_z \approx \frac{Q}{4\pi\epsilon_0 z^2} \), where \(Q = \pi R^2 \sigma\) is the total charge on the disk.

What is the potential difference between the center and the edge of the charged CD disk?

The potential difference between the center and the edge of the charged CD disk can be calculated using the potential formula. At the center (\(z = 0\)), the potential is \( V(0) = \frac{\sigma R}{2\epsilon_0} \). At the edge along the axis (at

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